Editing 2814: Perseids Pronunciation

{{comic
| number    = 2814
| date      = August 11, 2023
| title     = Perseids Pronunciation
| image     = perseids_pronunciation_2x.png
| imagesize = 291x414px
| noexpand  = true
| titletext = When speaking out loud, you can can [sic] call it the 'Perseids meatier shower' and no one will ever know. (If you do get caught somehow, just tell them to Google the 'Kentucky meat shower' and that will distract them while you escape.)
}}

==Explanation==
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This comic references the {{w|Perseids meteor shower}}, which is active in July and August. Their name ultimately derives from the ancient Greek hero ''Perseus'' (for ''his'' pronounciaton, check {{w|Perseus}}). There are various ways of pronouncing ''Perseids'', and [[Randall]] gives the obvious ones before the comic spirals into virtual nonsense, or possibly parodies of {{wiktionary|va-jay-jay|common euphemistic replacement word}}.


{| class="wikitable"
! scope="col"| Section
! scope="col"| Term
! scope="col"| Explanation

|-
! scope="row"| Generally accepted
| PER-see-ids
PURSE-yids
| These are the most common pronunciations in English.
|-
! scope="row"| Also heard sometimes
| Per-SEE-ids
Per-SAY-ids
| These are also considered acceptable.
|-
! scope="row"| Generally frowned on
|Per-SIDES
Per-ZAY-uds
PER-suds
| These are not very correct, but better than below
|-
!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
| Perky-ids
| Calling them Perky seems likely to be an attempt to be dirty.
|-
!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
| Pewpewpews
| This is referential to lasers, which are known for their "pewpewpew" sounds. However, meteors are most definitely not lasers{{citation needed}}.
|-
!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
| Per-say-says
| This is a tradition of rhyming lazy/cute slang, like referring to the female reproductive part as {{wiktionary|va-jay-jay}}.
|-
!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
| Percies &nbsp;Purps
| Spaced out to indicate that each word in the row is a separate entry. "Percies" seems to akin to nicknaming each meteor "Percy" and referring to all of them as a group. Purps is close to Perps, a short slang form of Perpetrator (generally the person responsible for a crime).
|-
!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
| Pepsids &nbsp;Peeps
| Also spaced out. "Pepsids" seems to refer to Pepcid, an antacid, but misspelled to match the original word. It could also be referencing {{w|Pepsi}}. "Peeps" are shorebirds that are impossible to identify (for example, {{w|Least Sandpiper}}). See {{w|stints}}. But more likely either a reference to the Peep, a spongy candy which is shaped and decorated like baby chickens, or the slang for "people", particularly a group that the speaker identifies with, "my peeps". If the two names on this line were joined together, they could refer to a group of people in some way associated with antacids.
|}

The title text mentions how "meteor" sounds like "meatier," {{w|Homophone|although the meanings are completely different}}. It suggests telling people about the {{w|Kentucky meat shower}}, an anomalous weather event in 1876, as a distractor.

==Transcript==
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:How to pronounce the name of the Perseids meteor shower

:Generally accepted
::PER-see-ids
::PURSE-yids

:Also heard sometimes
::Per-SEE-ids
::Per-SAY-ids

:Generally frowned on
::Per-SIDES
::Per-ZAY-uds
::PER-suds

:''Definitely'' wrong
::Perky-ids
::Pewpewpews
::Per-say-says
::Percies Purps
::Pepsids Peeps

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 ==Explanation==
+{{incomplete|Created by the per-se-DEIS meteor shower - Please change this comment when editing this page. Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}}
-This comic references the {{w|Perseids meteor shower}}, which is active in July and August. Their name ultimately derives from the ancient Greek hero ''Perseus'' (for ''his'' pronunciation, check {{w|Perseus}}). There are various ways of pronouncing ''Perseids'', and [[Randall]] gives the obvious ones before the comic spirals into virtual nonsense, or possibly parodies of {{wiktionary|va-jay-jay|common euphemistic replacement words}}. This is written from an American English perspective.
+This comic references the {{w|Perseids meteor shower}}, which is active in July and August. Their name ultimately derives from the ancient Greek hero ''Perseus'' (for ''his'' pronounciaton, check {{w|Perseus}}). There are various ways of pronouncing ''Perseids'', and [[Randall]] gives the obvious ones before the comic spirals into virtual nonsense, or possibly parodies of {{wiktionary|va-jay-jay|common euphemistic replacement word}}.
-It should be noted that the last consonant is often pronounced as a "z" sound rather than "s" (the technical term is "voiced"), which is not reflected in these spellings.
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 |-
-! rowspan="2"| Generally accepted
+! scope="row"| Generally accepted
 | PER-see-ids
-| Standard 3-syllable English pronunciation.
+PURSE-yids
-|-
+| These are the most common pronunciations in English.
-| PURSE-yids
-| Standard 2.5 syllable pronunciation, nearly indistinguishable from the previous.
 |-
-! rowspan="2"| Also heard sometimes
+! scope="row"| Also heard sometimes
 | Per-SEE-ids
-| The emPHAsis on the seCOND sylLAble is nonstandard.
+Per-SAY-ids
-|-
+| These are also considered acceptable.
-| Per-SAY-ids
-| Accepted British pronunciation of Perseids with "classical" pronunciation of the "ei" digraph.
-|-
-! rowspan="3"| Generally frowned on
-| Per-SIDES
-| Two syllables with a Germanic pronunciation of the "ei" digraph.
-|-
-| Per-ZAY-uds
-| Voiced "S" phoneme. Could be acceptable in New Zealand.
 |-
-| PER-suds
+! scope="row"| Generally frowned on
-| Two syllables, ignoring the digraph altogether and making it schwa.
+|Per-SIDES
+Per-ZAY-uds
+PER-suds
+| These are not very correct, but better than below
 |-
-!rowspan="9"| Definitely wrong
+!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
 | Perky-ids
-| Backformed from the C=S equivalence but from the wrong kide.
+| Calling them Perky seems likely to be an attempt to be dirty.
 |-
+!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
 | Pewpewpews
-| An onomatopoeia for [[2817: Electron Holes|electron hole guns]] and fictional laser guns.
+| This is referential to lasers, which are known for their "pewpewpew" sounds. However, meteors are most definitely not lasers{{citation needed}}.
 |-
+!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
 | Per-say-says
-| This is a tradition of rhyming lazy/cute slang, like referring to the vagina as {{wiktionary|va-jay-jay}}.
+| This is a tradition of rhyming lazy/cute slang, like referring to the female reproductive part as {{wiktionary|va-jay-jay}}.
-|-
-| Percies
-| "Percies" is plural of Percy, the short form of Perseus, and could easily be an abbreviated/informal form of "Perseids", especially when spoken.
-|-
-| Purps
-| "Purps" is close to "Perps", a short slang form of Perpetrator (generally the person responsible for a crime). Conceivably an evolution of pronunciation from re-extending the even more abbreviated "Pers" with a new plosive ending re-added.
-|-
-| Percies Purps
-| Together, this would be a name of a criminal gang, led by Perseus or Perseid.
-|- <!-- Seems like enough people want to keep the incorrect 4-term explanation, well at least also keep the correct 2-terms explanation as well -->
-| Pepsids
-| "Pepsids" could refer to {{w|Famotidine|Pepcid}} (an antacid), or it could also be referencing the {{w|Pepsi}} brand, through insertion of a single plosive 'p' in the loosely pronounced original word.
 |-
-| Peeps
+!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
-| "Peeps", derived vocally similarly to "purps", are possibly shorebirds that are not always easy to identify (for example the {{w|Least Sandpiper}}), also known as "{{w|stints}}". Or, continuing the bird theme, could directly reference {{w|Peeps|a spongy candy}} which is shaped and decorated like baby chickens. It is also a common slang term for "people"; particularly an in-group that the speaker identifies with, as in "my peeps".
+| Percies &nbsp;Purps
+| Spaced out to indicate that each word in the row is a separate entry. "Percies" seems to akin to nicknaming each meteor "Percy" and referring to all of them as a group. Purps is close to Perps, a short slang form of Perpetrator (generally the person responsible for a crime).
 |-
-| Pepsids Peeps
+!scope="row"| Definitely wrong
-| Together, these would be people who bond over their reliance on Pepcid (and their interest in the Perseids, hence spelling it with an S)
+| Pepsids &nbsp;Peeps
+| Also spaced out. "Pepsids" seems to refer to Pepcid, an antacid, but misspelled to match the original word. It could also be referencing {{w|Pepsi}}. "Peeps" are shorebirds that are impossible to identify (for example, {{w|Least Sandpiper}}). See {{w|stints}}. But more likely either a reference to the Peep, a spongy candy which is shaped and decorated like baby chickens, or the slang for "people", particularly a group that the speaker identifies with, "my peeps". If the two names on this line were joined together, they could refer to a group of people in some way associated with antacids.
 |}
-The title text mentions how "meteor" sounds like "meatier," {{w|Homophone|although the meanings are completely different}}. It suggests telling people about the {{w|Kentucky meat shower}}, an anomalous weather event in 1876, as a [[2467: Wikipedia Caltrops|way to distract]] them. It also has the word "can" twice.
+The title text mentions how "meteor" sounds like "meatier," {{w|Homophone|although the meanings are completely different}}. It suggests telling people about the {{w|Kentucky meat shower}}, an anomalous weather event in 1876, as a distractor.
 ==Transcript==