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| | ::::::: 3) the simple table is the more pleasing, easier to read layout. | | ::::::: 3) the simple table is the more pleasing, easier to read layout. |
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| − | :::::::: Actually, it's 2 terms, no room for debate, as I've already explained, in detail, twice. :) (I didn't see the compromise so I cannot comment on 2, but no. It's NOT "apples bananas", it's "pineapples" instead of "pine apples". These are one term each. "Percies Purps" is one term, its perpetrators led by Perceus, and "Pepsids Peeps" is one term, it's people bonded over their use of Pepcid, just that each word needs explaining first). As for 3, sorry, a "pleasing" table takes a backseat to a correct one. I know, putting the individual word explanations makes the entry LONG, but that can't be helped.
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| − | :::::::: Interesting how a select few people too blind to see past the 4-word idea are trying to insist I leave room to consider the wrong idea that Randall may have meant this as 4 terms, but you can't allow any room for the correct explanation? That's not how it works on this site. When there's more than one plausible explanation, we list them all, even when they're unlikely. (Which is part of what makes this significant, the 4 words explanation is THAT MUCH not possible, that it shouldn't even be listed as a possibility. However, '''''_I_''''' would be open minded to a compromise. Leaving out the correct explanation is not an option, though. I'd leave it alone as long as the correct explanation was in there, I always do). [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 20:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::: Except this isn't "my worldview", it is the correct answer. You don't seem to realize how significant this is. Yes. I'm very definite about this, that's the point. Because it is fact. I cannot stress this enough. Honestly, I'm fine with leaving the wrong answer in - I always do, except usually the wrong answer is only unlikely - as long as the correct answer is there too, and it's not. The correct answer should be the most prominent. The thing is, as I've been saying, there's no possibility this time. It is so impossible, it shouldn't be there, at all. Better to leave it out than spread this confusion any further. Here's the thing: I am the MOST "take a step back", lateral opinion person you will ever encounter, bar none. I find myself more able to see all sides and points of view than anybody, it's like a superpower, I pride myself on it. When people see things in black & white, I spot the greys. So understand just how significant it is that I am expressing THIS level of certainty, how absolutely impossible it is for 4 terms to be right. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 20:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::By my count, "select few people" who insist on 4 1-word terms outnumber (however you count them) just the ''one'' person who is definite on it being 2 2-word terms. I don't mind giving both options, on the off-chance, but I still think your reasoning is inferior and less justifiable. Are you wrong? Probably, but I've got nothing against being in error (the gods know I've been wrong on the odd occasion), just the dogmatic lone-wolf attitude and rather unconvincing magniminity in finally making the concession that was first given ''from the 'other side' of the argument''... I won't respond to the 'reasoning', below, because sucficient counter-arguments already exist and there's no need to repeat them. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.90|172.70.90.90]] 21:20, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::: "By your count", it IS quite common for the wrong people to be more vocal. I'm outnumbered here like 2 or 3-to-1, but that's only 1 or 2 people more, chances are all the people who agree with the truth just aren't speaking up, and we actually ARE the majority. With this community I expect this is the case. How many just understand the comic and aren't looking at the explanation at all? How many see this mess and don't want to jump in? How many people don't realize they can comment without even having a login? And number of people is irrelevant anyway, the truth is more important than how many believe it. Lots of people believe lots of crazy things. My reasoning is actually flawless and perfectly justified, that's how I know it's the truth. :) The thing is, the "lone-wolf" certainty is because this site is ALWAYS plagued by uncertainty, people unsure about the clearest and most likely things, clinging to unlikely possibilities. But this time it just isn't possible, so it seems like the confused people need to hear some certainty in order to clarify things. Of course, human nature being what it is, some people don't like being proven wrong and just stubbornly double down on the incorrect answer. Too bad those are the ones speaking up. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 04:04, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
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| | :::::: "try saying "Perseids" back-to-back with each two word pair, back and forth, quickly, you should see how they line up." - lines up fine with PERCIES and PEPSIDS, PURPS is a bit of an extreme contraction of PERSEIDS, and PEEPS is a very unlikely contraction of it which you might arrive at if you said "Perseids" twenty times as fast as possible and then speed up. | | :::::: "try saying "Perseids" back-to-back with each two word pair, back and forth, quickly, you should see how they line up." - lines up fine with PERCIES and PEPSIDS, PURPS is a bit of an extreme contraction of PERSEIDS, and PEEPS is a very unlikely contraction of it which you might arrive at if you said "Perseids" twenty times as fast as possible and then speed up. |
| | :::::: Please be a nice guy and accept that your take is the odd one here. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.100|162.158.94.100]] 07:54, 21 August 2023 (UTC) | | :::::: Please be a nice guy and accept that your take is the odd one here. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.94.100|162.158.94.100]] 07:54, 21 August 2023 (UTC) |
| − | ::::::: "PEWPEWPEWS" is just how that cartoon onomatopoeia goes, no spaces is common, and it would ruin these two. "PER-SAY-SAYS" was before he completely abandoned the pronunciation guide format (Again, note how "Percies" should be "per-CIES" if he was still doing that). So, no, neither are counterexamples. "Perky-ids" he's starting to abandon the pronunciation guide. I might even posit it's there for different reasons, to isolate "Perky" out of the complete entry. So, not a counterexample either. The ONLY way I've heard "Perseids" said, it's the first one in the comic, the "i" is NOT an "ee" sound, "id" is always pronounced like "did". No, it does NOT line up with "Percies" and "Pepsids", because those are 2 syllables and "Perseids" is 3 (do you not know how to actually SAY Perseids? It's in this comic! The first first pronunciation!). Match 2-syllables to 2-syllables and you're comparing "Percies" with "Perce-" - essentially "Percy" - which would be pronounced the same but adding the S, and "Pepsids" with "Perce-", not far off. Being a different number of syllables is the opposite of "lining up". "Extreme" and "unlikely", that's how you know they're not trying to be that. They are PARTS of an entry, not the whole.
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| − | :::::::And finally, I AM a nice guy, :) I didn't choose this name lightly, which is why I'm trying to teach something here. I'm actually the best at seeing all sides, seeing the merits and arguments for all sides, and this one died. Also, the extreme lack of nicknames make it hard to tell (and suggests a lack of conviction), but the impression is that only like 3 of you are taking this side. My side just isn't speaking up - likely that the people who agree with me don't comment, or realize they can, or don't want to take part in an argument. And even if I WAS alone, being odd is irrelevant anyway, what actually matters is the truth, that I'm right. [[User:NiceGuy1|NiceGuy1]] ([[User talk:NiceGuy1|talk]]) 20:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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| | I think the "Pepsids Peeps" is a reference to the Pepsi x Peeps soda that got released a few months ago—the first word could be a cross between PEPSI and perseiDS. Presumably, they are very sugary meteors. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.150.46|172.68.150.46]] 12:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC) | | I think the "Pepsids Peeps" is a reference to the Pepsi x Peeps soda that got released a few months ago—the first word could be a cross between PEPSI and perseiDS. Presumably, they are very sugary meteors. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.150.46|172.68.150.46]] 12:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC) |
