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==Explanation== | ==Explanation== | ||
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− | + | In the {{w|United States}}, it's common to {{w|Writing|write}} {{w|Calendar dates|dates}} {{w|Numerical analysis|numerically}} in the {{w|Calendar date#Date format|format}} ''{{w|Month|month}}/{{w|Day|day}}/{{w|Year|year}}'' -- 2/3/22 means {{w|February}} 3, {{w|2022}} (the {{w|Century|century}} is often {{w|Purposeful omission|omitted}} when it's obvious that the date is around the {{w|Present|current time}}). In {{w|Europe}}, the {{w|Calendar date#Gregorian, day–month–year (DMY)|usual order}} is ''day/month/year'' - so 2/3/22 is 2nd {{w|March}}, 2022. | |
− | + | "{{w|Internationalization and localization|Localization}}" is the technique used in {{w|Software|software}} to make it accept {{w|Input (computer science)|input}} and display output in the formats most natural to {{w|User (computing)|users}} in their {{w|Location|locations}}. For example, in the United States {{w|Number|numbers}} use {{w|Comma|commas}} "," to separate {{w|1000 (number)|thousands}} and a {{w|Decimal separator#Countries using decimal point|decimal point}} "." to separate the decimal values, while in large areas of the EU {{w|Decimal separator#Countries using decimal comma|it is the reverse}}. And the textual output will be {{w|Translation|translated}} to the local {{w|Language|language}}. Naturally, this also includes displaying dates in the local format, as described above. Localization may also include the adoption of the {{w|Tax law|tax law}} to the location, for instance when adopting software made for the US to the {{w|United Kingdom|UK}}. | |
− | + | The {{w|Joke|joke}} in this {{w|Comics|comic}} is that two dates are shown on the same {{w|Display device|display}} related to {{w|Meeting|meetings}} regarding localization. The date of the meeting of the US team is localized in the US format, while the EU team's meeting is localized in the European format, and these two dates about a month apart happen to be formatted the same (there are many such pairs of dates, as long as the day of the month is between 1 and 12). Cueball needs to explain that the European meeting will be a month later than the US meeting, to avoid confusion due to the ambiguity (which is {{w|Irony|ironic}}, since localization is intended to reduce {{w|Confusion|confusion}}). | |
− | {{w|ISO-8601}} (that is, standard number 8601 as promulgated by the {{w|International Organization for Standardization}} since 1988) specifies a date format of YYYY-MM-DD (e.g. | + | {{w|ISO-8601}} (that is, standard number 8601 as promulgated by the {{w|International Organization for Standardization}} since 1988) specifies a date format of YYYY-MM-DD (e.g. 2021-12-31), which results in dates being listed in chronological order when sorted stringwise. The ISO format is called "{{w|big-endian}}", which refers to the fact that the largest unit in the date (the year) comes first; the European format is instead "{{w|little-endian}}", while the American format is "{{w|middle-endian}}" (or "mixed-endian") since the unit given first is the one whose size is in the middle. (Regular numerals are also written with the largest place values on the left – for example, the first 2 in {{w|2021}} is the thousands place – though whether this convention is big-endian or little-endian depends on whether the numbers are being read in the context of left-to-right or right-to-left text. The "{{w|Endianness|endianness}}" terms are most often used in reference to whether the address of a value in the computer memory is the location of the most significant or least significant cell, though they originate in a [https://www.ling.upenn.edu/courses/Spring_2003/ling538/Lecnotes/ADfn1.htm Jonathan Swift story] about a war over which end of the egg to eat first.) This standard was also mentioned in [[1179: ISO 8601]]. |
− | + | The joke in the title text is that someone attempting to interpret the improperly formatted date as if it were expressed in the standardized ISO-8601 format, might read the date as March 22, 2002, so they went to the meeting almost 20 years ago. Unless the announcement of the meetings was made 2 decades in advance, there's a {{w|Paradox|paradox}} that these participants would have taken the date from an announcement in the far future. However this interpretation of the date is necessarily incorrect: ISO-8601 format specifies four-digit years, two-digit months, and two-digit days. Therefore "2/3/22” ''can by specification not'' be an ISO-8601 date, as "2" must be rendered as "0002", and "3" must be "03". Even if the leading {{w|0|zeroes}} were omitted in violation of ISO-8601, the year would become {{w|AD 2|Year 2}}, not Year 2002. Since the standard always uses a 4 digit 'YYYY' format in the first field, and no common formatting uses YYYY-DD-MM, any date written in ISO-8601 is easily recognized and (comparatively) {{w|Ambiguity|unambiguously}} interpretable as YYYY-MM-DD. Dates written in Y-M-DD or MM-DD-YY or other formats are (officially) formatted improperly. | |
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− | The joke in the title text is that | ||
==Transcript== | ==Transcript== | ||
− | :[ | + | {{incomplete transcript|Do NOT delete this tag too soon.}} |
+ | :[Cueball sitting next to a screen, which displays]: | ||
:Localization working group | :Localization working group | ||
:Upcoming meetings | :Upcoming meetings | ||
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:US Team: 2/3/22 | :US Team: 2/3/22 | ||
:EU Team: 2/3/22 | :EU Team: 2/3/22 |