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− | [[User:Rikthoff|Rikthoff]] ([[User talk:Rikthoff|talk]]) I | + | I noticed the character on the right has hair in the first two frames, but is bald in the last frame... Two persons? [[User:Rikthoff|Rikthoff]] ([[User talk:Rikthoff|talk]]) |
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+ | I believe that this is the same person because otherwise it seems that Megan didn't tell the character on the right with hair (presumably Marty McFly) about her father therefore diminishing the humor. | ||
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+ | :I agree with Rikthoff, I don't think this is Cueball. Being bald is one of his main features and this guy definately has hair.--[[User:Popuppete|Popuppete]] ([[User talk:Popuppete|talk]]) 13:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
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+ | The issue date might be off. All files since #101 have been created on April 11th, 2006. Anyone with an actual issue date? [[User:Rikthoff|Rikthoff]] ([[User talk:Rikthoff|talk]]) | ||
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+ | Could it be possible that Megan's dad died because of something the other character (let's not call him Cueball until we know for sure) did in the future to "make sure his parents got together and helped his dad to be less of a loser"? [[User:tesshavon|tesshavon]] | ||
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+ | :It's more likely to have been the result of a airliner full of jet fuel crashing into the tower, causing it to burn and collapse. Megan is probably thinking that Cueball (I'm still going to call him Cueball, sorry) could maybe have alerted somebody that this was going to happen. In the past. Him having access to a time machine and all. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58|108.162.219.58]] 20:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Why do we take for granted alt text refers to the Cueball/Hairy and not the father? [[Special:Contributions/141.101.89.210|141.101.89.210]] 21:55, 29 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | What if the alt text refers to Marty McFly and not Cueball/Hairy? You don't have to think about the comic very hard to know C/H was an asshole, but I think the implication is that Marty could have taken the DeLorean and done less petty, personal things with it. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.54.47|173.245.54.47]] 21:51, 12 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :If it did refer to MM, Randall's interpretation of the movie is skewed. MM only did what he needed to do to repair the damage he unintentionally did. There was no personal benefit intended other than saving his own life, and that of his siblings. Randall has taken some creative license with the way C/H explains the plot.[[Special:Contributions/172.69.70.251|172.69.70.251]] 07:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::Exactly — Marty McFly ''could'' have (for example) saved many people's lives, but instead he only saved "his own life, and that of his siblings," so Marty McFly ''is'' "kind of an asshole, when you think about it." [[User:Yfmcpxpj|Yfmcpxpj]] ([[User talk:Yfmcpxpj|talk]]) 11:18, 1 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Have people forgotten? The DeLorean time machine was destroyed at the end of the third film - it spent less than a day in total in 1985 (first used 1.20 am, destroyed by a train c. midafternoon). Cueball even references this in the comic. {{unsigned ip|108.162.250.223}} | ||
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+ | :Megan can still contact the friend and get her own time machine... maybe. [[User:Greyson|Greyson]] ([[User talk:Greyson|talk]]) 05:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :The DeLorean that Marty used to travel from 1885 to 1985 was, indeed, destroyed (somewhat ironically by a fast-moving, modern train). But what of the DeLorean Doc stashed in the cave in 1885? That's what he used to create the flying train. [[User:PoconoChuck|PoconoChuck]] ([[User talk:PoconoChuck|talk]]) 20:19, 9 May 2016 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::Actually, that cave DeLorean had to stay there after Doc buried it in 1885, or else 1955 Doc and Marty couldn't dig it out to go back to 1885 to get Doc. It is surmised that parts from the hoverboard (that remained in 1885 with Doc and Clara) were used in the making of the Time Train. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.70.251|172.69.70.251]] 07:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :The conversation in the comic occurs some time after September 11, 2001, and Hairy/Cueball says "''this weekend'', my professor friend built a time machine," so the DeLorean in this comic could be a completely different DeLorean than the one in the movies. But either way, it can travel through time, so it could be present at any point in time, regardless of if/when it was destroyed, yes? [[User:Yfmcpxpj|Yfmcpxpj]] ([[User talk:Yfmcpxpj|talk]]) 11:42, 1 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
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+ | 'He' could also be her father, thus explaining why he wasn't saved. --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.47.132|172.68.47.132]] 06:14, 27 August 2018 (UTC) | ||
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+ | I think that the title text can't possibly be referring to Megan's father. First of all, Cueball/Hairy and Megan seem to be close friends, since Megan saying "you remember" implies that she brought it up previously. Most people don't call their friend's father an asshole to justify letting them die. Also, Hairy/Cueball seems to genuinely not get what Megan said. And the title text is in present tense, while we tend to talk about deceased people in past tense. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.62.63|162.158.62.63]] 00:38, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
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+ | I don't know which part of saying he could have prevented the 2011 Japanese earthquake/tsunami is more bizarre, that you can't prevent earthquakes, or that it didn't occur until 5 years after the comic was made. I hope this was intentional, but given the minimal intellect of most human beings I can't be certain. — [[User:Kazvorpal|Kazvorpal]] ([[User talk:Kazvorpal|talk]]) 17:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | : Well, you can't prevent an earthquake{{Actual citation needed}}, but perhaps you can prevent the ''disaster'' of the earthquake. Somehow. Without setting up your knowledge by pre-predicting something else (to get the authorities/public to listen to you), it might be harder. Though nudging any 'national earthquake drill'/surrogate activity to have more people prepared to not be in danger at the actual moment might work (or be counter-productive... the actual common earthquake fore-warnings at the speed of SMS, ahead of the speed of mere seismic waves, might be mistaken for 'drill warnings' and not obeyed). | ||
+ | : Though the best part of having a time-machine (given certain conditions of time-travel, and enough capabalities to take advantange of that for a given time-travelling-device) is that you can actually fine-tune your intervention to discover the most optimal 'best way of avoiding disaster' you can imagine. Find ''the'' person who is most pursuadable ''and'' influential to get either your direct or indirect assistance used to the fullest extent. Even if that's just getting <insert social media boss> to promote a "Get Outside And Take A Photo Of The Nearest Hill Day" promotion, which might get a significant number of the most influencable people to get out of the way of urban damage (and at least ''ready'' to escape to higher ground). But there'll be many other approaches. For example developing a fake 'detector' that is shown to be utterly accurate in predicting minor seismic events (pre-programmed from your time-travelling 'cheat sheet') and then (again, pre-programmed) gives the warning for the "big one"... though what you do then (keep on feeding it with future data, indefinitely? ...or have it 'accidentally' destroyed and unreconstructable in the process, leaving it a mystery how it worked (and perhaps a nasty red-herring solution!) and leaving the 'more future bits of your native past, present and future' just as vulnable in every other respect) is a bit of a moral question, as well as practical). | ||
+ | : And, with access to (the right kind of) time-machine, you could have gone ''forward'' five+ years and checked out what info you might want to have ready to help the present ''and future'' of 2009. (Alongside that sports almanac...) | ||
+ | : Imagination. Once you're over the bizareness of temporal engineering/etc, I don't see anything too mich more bizarre with what you ''do'' with it... [[Special:Contributions/162.158.74.48|162.158.74.48]] 18:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 18:36, 29 January 2024
I noticed the character on the right has hair in the first two frames, but is bald in the last frame... Two persons? Rikthoff (talk)
I believe that this is the same person because otherwise it seems that Megan didn't tell the character on the right with hair (presumably Marty McFly) about her father therefore diminishing the humor.
- I agree with Rikthoff, I don't think this is Cueball. Being bald is one of his main features and this guy definately has hair.--Popuppete (talk) 13:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
The issue date might be off. All files since #101 have been created on April 11th, 2006. Anyone with an actual issue date? Rikthoff (talk)
Could it be possible that Megan's dad died because of something the other character (let's not call him Cueball until we know for sure) did in the future to "make sure his parents got together and helped his dad to be less of a loser"? tesshavon
- It's more likely to have been the result of a airliner full of jet fuel crashing into the tower, causing it to burn and collapse. Megan is probably thinking that Cueball (I'm still going to call him Cueball, sorry) could maybe have alerted somebody that this was going to happen. In the past. Him having access to a time machine and all. 108.162.219.58 20:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Why do we take for granted alt text refers to the Cueball/Hairy and not the father? 141.101.89.210 21:55, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
What if the alt text refers to Marty McFly and not Cueball/Hairy? You don't have to think about the comic very hard to know C/H was an asshole, but I think the implication is that Marty could have taken the DeLorean and done less petty, personal things with it. --173.245.54.47 21:51, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- If it did refer to MM, Randall's interpretation of the movie is skewed. MM only did what he needed to do to repair the damage he unintentionally did. There was no personal benefit intended other than saving his own life, and that of his siblings. Randall has taken some creative license with the way C/H explains the plot.172.69.70.251 07:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Have people forgotten? The DeLorean time machine was destroyed at the end of the third film - it spent less than a day in total in 1985 (first used 1.20 am, destroyed by a train c. midafternoon). Cueball even references this in the comic. 108.162.250.223 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
- Megan can still contact the friend and get her own time machine... maybe. Greyson (talk) 05:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- The DeLorean that Marty used to travel from 1885 to 1985 was, indeed, destroyed (somewhat ironically by a fast-moving, modern train). But what of the DeLorean Doc stashed in the cave in 1885? That's what he used to create the flying train. PoconoChuck (talk) 20:19, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, that cave DeLorean had to stay there after Doc buried it in 1885, or else 1955 Doc and Marty couldn't dig it out to go back to 1885 to get Doc. It is surmised that parts from the hoverboard (that remained in 1885 with Doc and Clara) were used in the making of the Time Train. 172.69.70.251 07:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- The conversation in the comic occurs some time after September 11, 2001, and Hairy/Cueball says "this weekend, my professor friend built a time machine," so the DeLorean in this comic could be a completely different DeLorean than the one in the movies. But either way, it can travel through time, so it could be present at any point in time, regardless of if/when it was destroyed, yes? Yfmcpxpj (talk) 11:42, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
'He' could also be her father, thus explaining why he wasn't saved. --172.68.47.132 06:14, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
I think that the title text can't possibly be referring to Megan's father. First of all, Cueball/Hairy and Megan seem to be close friends, since Megan saying "you remember" implies that she brought it up previously. Most people don't call their friend's father an asshole to justify letting them die. Also, Hairy/Cueball seems to genuinely not get what Megan said. And the title text is in present tense, while we tend to talk about deceased people in past tense. 162.158.62.63 00:38, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't know which part of saying he could have prevented the 2011 Japanese earthquake/tsunami is more bizarre, that you can't prevent earthquakes, or that it didn't occur until 5 years after the comic was made. I hope this was intentional, but given the minimal intellect of most human beings I can't be certain. — Kazvorpal (talk) 17:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Well, you can't prevent an earthquake[actual citation needed], but perhaps you can prevent the disaster of the earthquake. Somehow. Without setting up your knowledge by pre-predicting something else (to get the authorities/public to listen to you), it might be harder. Though nudging any 'national earthquake drill'/surrogate activity to have more people prepared to not be in danger at the actual moment might work (or be counter-productive... the actual common earthquake fore-warnings at the speed of SMS, ahead of the speed of mere seismic waves, might be mistaken for 'drill warnings' and not obeyed).
- Though the best part of having a time-machine (given certain conditions of time-travel, and enough capabalities to take advantange of that for a given time-travelling-device) is that you can actually fine-tune your intervention to discover the most optimal 'best way of avoiding disaster' you can imagine. Find the person who is most pursuadable and influential to get either your direct or indirect assistance used to the fullest extent. Even if that's just getting <insert social media boss> to promote a "Get Outside And Take A Photo Of The Nearest Hill Day" promotion, which might get a significant number of the most influencable people to get out of the way of urban damage (and at least ready to escape to higher ground). But there'll be many other approaches. For example developing a fake 'detector' that is shown to be utterly accurate in predicting minor seismic events (pre-programmed from your time-travelling 'cheat sheet') and then (again, pre-programmed) gives the warning for the "big one"... though what you do then (keep on feeding it with future data, indefinitely? ...or have it 'accidentally' destroyed and unreconstructable in the process, leaving it a mystery how it worked (and perhaps a nasty red-herring solution!) and leaving the 'more future bits of your native past, present and future' just as vulnable in every other respect) is a bit of a moral question, as well as practical).
- And, with access to (the right kind of) time-machine, you could have gone forward five+ years and checked out what info you might want to have ready to help the present and future of 2009. (Alongside that sports almanac...)
- Imagination. Once you're over the bizareness of temporal engineering/etc, I don't see anything too mich more bizarre with what you do with it... 162.158.74.48 18:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)