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:Kyle -  On the other hand, "Adaptation" actually features a lot of "nervous stream-of-consciousness" narration.
 
:Kyle -  On the other hand, "Adaptation" actually features a lot of "nervous stream-of-consciousness" narration.
  
== The Oxford Comma ==
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#1: The Oxford comma is a matter of style and pinotuatucn; it has nothing to do with grammar. The words  and also  are redundant, and because the and  is a conjunction introducing an independent clause, you should have a comma after  ever .#2: Questions of pronunciation have nothing to do with grammar.#3: Your first sentence contains a grammatical error (a dangling modifier) implying that  debates are grammatically correct . When joining two words into a single adjective, such as  often-controversial , a hyphen is required (but that's a spelling mistake, not a grammatical one). #4:  Irregardless  is a non-word used by those who have confused  regardless  with  irrespective ; it's an error of diction, not grammar.#6: Another error of diction, not grammar; again  explained with a dangling modifier, this time implying that  people are not as controversial as other grammar rules .#9: The use of the abbreviations and symbols common to SMS-messaging is a question of style and suitability, not grammar.#12: English has dozens of gender-neutral pronouns it, they, them, theirs, anyone, everyone, nobody, someone, many, few, we, us, one (two, three, four, five, etc.). That simple fact is not a  grammar rule , controversial or otherwise.#14: The use of passive voice is a question of style, not grammar. Your explanation contains yet another dangling modifier, which implies that  many writers are technically grammatically sound .#15: Placement of pinotuatucn marks is a matter of pinotuatucn and typography, not grammar.#16: The use of apostrophes is a matter of spelling, not grammar.#17: E-mail vs. email: spelling, not grammar.#19: The use of various dashes is a question of pinotuatucn and typography, not grammar.#20: Yet another dangling modifier. Eleven items on your list of  grammar rules  have nothing to do with grammar; four out of 20 explanations contain grammatical errors themselves, and you are unable to identify 99% of the language's gender-neutral pronouns. Sorry, but you get an  F' on this assignment; please stop trying to teach language skills until you acquire some.
 
 
Correct me if this is the wrong place for this question, but what is the house policy on the Oxford comma? This page had a line which previously read "doing the right things in the conversation and reacting appropriately and not saying 'yeah' too much." I corrected it to read "doing the right things in the conversation, reacting appropriately, and not saying 'yeah' too much," because I haven't seen any opinions expressed on this wiki yet regarding punctuation.
 

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This is a common anxiety for geek types, who stereotypically are not very skilled in navigating social situations like parties. It can become a vicious cycle where the fear of handling the encounter badly makes one even more uncomfortable which results in behaving as awkwardly as they first feared. Also, for many geek type personalities, it's common to want to map out a pre-planned course of action that should produce desired results. A strategy that is usually doomed to failure when dealing with sufficiently complex and unpredictable scenarios... like conversations with other people. This painful, and all too common situation has been mined for comedic effect since the beginning of human civilization.

I copied this into the article. Bugefun (talk) 19:58, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

Discussion From Comments

Joe Green - Yes I like the participatory and discursive nature of the comments. Also in this instance I find myself wondering why Cueball is hoping that OtherCueball “doesn’t ask me what his name is”. That would be a very strange thing to ask. Well, except in the form “do/don’t you know who I am?”

BigMal - It’s more like “I know he introduced him/herself earlier, but I already forgot, and he probably remembers my name, so if he asks me to recall his name I’d be caught (and embarrassed)!”
Joe Green - “if he asks me to recall his name” Well yes, but I just thought that was an unlikely thing for someone to do in such a direct way. Cueball *could* end up being embarrassed in that kind of way though if a friend of his joined the conversation and he wanted to introduce OtherCueball.
Harm - My solution to situations like that is something like “Go on, introduce yourselves,” and then standing back.

FredG - I think some of the humor of this comic also comes from the fact that in literature and film, a character's "internal monologue" is much less nervous stream-of-consciousness and is usually mostly inappropriate or satirical comments on the situation.

Kyle - On the other hand, "Adaptation" actually features a lot of "nervous stream-of-consciousness" narration.
  1. 1: The Oxford comma is a matter of style and pinotuatucn; it has nothing to do with grammar. The words and also are redundant, and because the and is a conjunction introducing an independent clause, you should have a comma after ever .#2: Questions of pronunciation have nothing to do with grammar.#3: Your first sentence contains a grammatical error (a dangling modifier) implying that debates are grammatically correct . When joining two words into a single adjective, such as often-controversial , a hyphen is required (but that's a spelling mistake, not a grammatical one). #4: Irregardless is a non-word used by those who have confused regardless with irrespective ; it's an error of diction, not grammar.#6: Another error of diction, not grammar; again explained with a dangling modifier, this time implying that people are not as controversial as other grammar rules .#9: The use of the abbreviations and symbols common to SMS-messaging is a question of style and suitability, not grammar.#12: English has dozens of gender-neutral pronouns it, they, them, theirs, anyone, everyone, nobody, someone, many, few, we, us, one (two, three, four, five, etc.). That simple fact is not a grammar rule , controversial or otherwise.#14: The use of passive voice is a question of style, not grammar. Your explanation contains yet another dangling modifier, which implies that many writers are technically grammatically sound .#15: Placement of pinotuatucn marks is a matter of pinotuatucn and typography, not grammar.#16: The use of apostrophes is a matter of spelling, not grammar.#17: E-mail vs. email: spelling, not grammar.#19: The use of various dashes is a question of pinotuatucn and typography, not grammar.#20: Yet another dangling modifier. Eleven items on your list of grammar rules have nothing to do with grammar; four out of 20 explanations contain grammatical errors themselves, and you are unable to identify 99% of the language's gender-neutral pronouns. Sorry, but you get an F' on this assignment; please stop trying to teach language skills until you acquire some.