Editing Talk:1337: Hack

Taking the number with the title, we have a 1337 Hack.  Has to be related.  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.237.64|108.162.237.64]] 08:28, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:: I concur, I don't think 1337 and Hack are just a coincidence [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.223|108.162.250.223]] 10:36, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


.... ok ... I bet that if the probe destroyed {{w|Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Picture|three of the Klingons' new K't'inga-class warships and the monitoring station en route}}, they would rethink the "we can no longer communicate with it" ... (seriously, probe from time of Voyagers returns to Earth and we are not able to communicate to it ... Roddenberry got surprisingly close). -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 10:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I wonder if it comes close enough to Earth so that it has enough delta-v left to deorbit like that, and where it would end up. Maybe someone could model it in KSP or something... [[Special:Contributions/173.245.48.84|173.245.48.84]] 11:37, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

:It's not orbiting the Earth, so it doesn't need any delta-V to de-orbit.  Consider:  meteors hit the atmosphere (or the ground) all the time with no delta-V at all.  All it needs is enough delta-V to re-aim so that it hits the planet, which if you start far enough away is probably very very little. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.48.61|173.245.48.61]] 18:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Randall, for making this possible. I will now forever lay claim to this comic as per this log: http://pastebin.com/bpexL7zL

You rock, dude. Keep on it. :) {{unsigned ip|108.162.218.5}}

I added the transcription - feel free to adjust the names of "Guy", "Girl1", and "Girl2" as I can't recall any "Randall appropriate" names. I've grouped all panel elements into groups, which I believe is correct. It's my first transcript. ;) [[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]]) 14:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:Wow, um, and if someone could "pretty" up the transcript so it shows a bit more nicely on the "front" page, it would be appreciated. [[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]]) 14:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::Hmmm, I ''did'' have the explanation broken up by panel, which I thought made it more readable, no? [[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]]) 22:01, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
When I first saw the explanation, I thought the move "Hackers" was the subject of [http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/130:_Julia_Stiles comic 130], rather than "Ghostwriters". Has anyone actually seen both? I get the impression Ghostwriters falls under the category of "so bad it's good", whereas Hackers is more of a cult classic. Maybe it's worth mentioning this emerging xkcd theme somewhere in the explanation. Thoughts? --[[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.16|108.162.219.16]] 14:43, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

"Hackers" is so bad it is good. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.246.117|108.162.246.117]] 17:10, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

What, no rooftop pool comments? {{unsigned ip|108.162.215.33}}

I was going to make a comment about the pool on the roof. I couldn't remember if they ended up in a roof pool later on in the movie, or if i'm thinking of another movie. I haven't seen Hackers in so long. [[User:Andyd273|Andyd273]] ([[User talk:Andyd273|talk]]) 17:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
: They do.  Crash and Burn's (Dade and Kate's) first interaction is her showing him around the school, which ends with her (somewhat reluctantly) telling him there's a pool on the roof of the school.  He goes up and the door locks behind him; several other students are already up there, suggesting this is a standard hazing ritual.  (side note: according to IMDB, this was a common prank at the school where they filmed.)  Dade retaliates by, among other things, causing the school's sprinklers to go off during class; when she tries to confront him, he responds, "Pool on the roof must have a leak."  The final scene shows the two conversing in a rooftop pool, which turns into frolicking as the credits roll.  [[User:Fryhole|Fryhole]] ([[User talk:Fryhole|talk]]) 19:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC) 

Regarding the pool: 
IIRC, the movie ends with the two main characters (who use the aliases "Acid Burn" and "Crash Override") going on a date at a swimming pool on a roof (the scene shot as in frame 13). Meanwhile, their friends hack the lights on some office buildings so that they display the words "CRASH AND BURN". The shot showing this is also very similar to the last three frames. [[User:Cactus|Cactus]] ([[User talk:Cactus|talk]]) 18:09, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I added an explanation for the storyline. It's probably not the only way you could understand this comic, but this one seems most plausible to me. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.231.123|108.162.231.123]] 20:18, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

The explanation states that Crash is the one who did the hack and tells Burn to make a wish at the appropriate time, but the conversation between the two in the comic shows the reverse. {{unsigned ip|108.162.249.204}}

Guys!  Part of this comic seems reality and part seems fantasy. Can someone please clear up about the divide?  Would it really be (have been) possible to reconnect with this mission?  Did someone apart from NASA attempt this?  Doesn't anybody else think that this would be good to know???  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58|108.162.219.58]] 03:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the "Transcript Incomplete" tag - if you feel this is in error or something else needs to be added, please comment or edit the transcript.[[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]]) 14:10, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the "Article Incomplete" tag - if you feel there is still something lacking in the explanation (which I just tweaked up a bit), please comment or fix the article. Enjoy. :) [[User:Jarod997|Jarod997]] ([[User talk:Jarod997|talk]]) 14:10, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm asking around for people who want to make 1337 happen, if you can help join #xkcd-1337 on irc.foonetic.net [[Special:Contributions/108.162.218.77|108.162.218.77]] 23:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Might be a red herring, but the date this was release 3-3-2014 - the individual numbers of 2014 add up to 7. 3-3-7 (1337) but the 1 is missing of course. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.70.97|141.101.70.97]] 09:19, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
... Thinking about it - it must be a coincidence, as XKCD numbers are sequential - therefore the fact that #1337 falls on 3rd March 2014 is lucky, or would have required some serious forethought! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.70.97|141.101.70.97]] 09:28, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


Is it just me or does the guy in the pool look like a de-hatted black hat guy? --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.9|141.101.98.9]] 13:43, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
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 :: I concur, I don't think 1337 and Hack are just a coincidence [[Special:Contributions/108.162.250.223|108.162.250.223]] 10:36, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
-::This isn't the first time that Randall has posted comics whose numbers are related to their content- [[1000]] comes to mind, and I don't think that [[1190: Time]] is a {{w|Time_pyramid|coincidence,}} either. --[[User:Someone Else 37|Someone Else 37]] ([[User talk:Someone Else 37|talk]]) 04:50, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 .... ok ... I bet that if the probe destroyed {{w|Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Picture|three of the Klingons' new K't'inga-class warships and the monitoring station en route}}, they would rethink the "we can no longer communicate with it" ... (seriously, probe from time of Voyagers returns to Earth and we are not able to communicate to it ... Roddenberry got surprisingly close). -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 10:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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 The explanation states that Crash is the one who did the hack and tells Burn to make a wish at the appropriate time, but the conversation between the two in the comic shows the reverse. {{unsigned ip|108.162.249.204}}
-I just re-watched Hackers and I believe the explanation is incorrect. When "Crash and Burn" shows up on the buildings, Crash says "Beat that" to Burn. That implies that he did the hack and not their friends. Given that information, I would interpret the comic as Burn one-upping Crash. If people agree, I'll adjust the explanation.
-[[User:Jrondeau|Jrondeau]] ([[User talk:Jrondeau|talk]]) 01:32, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 Guys!  Part of this comic seems reality and part seems fantasy. Can someone please clear up about the divide?  Would it really be (have been) possible to reconnect with this mission?  Did someone apart from NASA attempt this?  Doesn't anybody else think that this would be good to know???  [[Special:Contributions/108.162.219.58|108.162.219.58]] 03:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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 Might be a red herring, but the date this was release 3-3-2014 - the individual numbers of 2014 add up to 7. 3-3-7 (1337) but the 1 is missing of course. [[Special:Contributions/141.101.70.97|141.101.70.97]] 09:19, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 ... Thinking about it - it must be a coincidence, as XKCD numbers are sequential - therefore the fact that #1337 falls on 3rd March 2014 is lucky, or would have required some serious forethought! [[Special:Contributions/141.101.70.97|141.101.70.97]] 09:28, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 Is it just me or does the guy in the pool look like a de-hatted black hat guy? --[[Special:Contributions/141.101.98.9|141.101.98.9]] 13:43, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
-The text is: "There's a new signal going out over the transmitter!", "They're firing the probe's engines!". So Burn didn't hack the satellite in advance, but hacked into the transmitter while the other ones were using it. As the movie is just a movie, I don't think it's significant that the move predates the shutdown signal. The equipment to send the signal is a big transmitter, Why should a hacker own an expensive physical transmitter that is rarely used, when it is easier to "own" a transmitter that belongs to someone else? [[Special:Contributions/108.162.254.160|108.162.254.160]] 22:33, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
-This is ACTUALLY HAPPENING now - minus the Crash and Burn part :). See http://spacecollege.org/isee3/we-are-now-in-command-of-the-isee-3-spacecraft.html {{unsigned ip|108.162.219.10}}
-See also http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/05/isee-3-spacecraft-makes-first-earth-contact-in-16-years {{unsigned|JakubNarebski}}