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:::: Rather most liberal parties in Europe in the last decades moved on the political right of Europe's conservative parties, emphasizing an immigrant-critical, corporate-friendly program over civil liberties. So 'liberals' has another ring to Europeans than to US-Americans. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.88|172.68.110.88]] 18:20, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | :::: Rather most liberal parties in Europe in the last decades moved on the political right of Europe's conservative parties, emphasizing an immigrant-critical, corporate-friendly program over civil liberties. So 'liberals' has another ring to Europeans than to US-Americans. Sebastian --[[Special:Contributions/172.68.110.88|172.68.110.88]] 18:20, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
:: European politics, unlike US politics, is multidimensional. [[User:Erkinalp|Erkinalp]] ([[User talk:Erkinalp|talk]]) 16:59, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | :: European politics, unlike US politics, is multidimensional. [[User:Erkinalp|Erkinalp]] ([[User talk:Erkinalp|talk]]) 16:59, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
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:::: Whoa there. Speaking as an American, Erkin is right. We have two parties. One dimension, left or right. There are plenty more established parties in Europe, making it -- you guessed it -- multidimensional. While their comment was indeed mostly unprompted, I think we might be a little touchy here. I am curious, though, as to why you chose to (I'm assuming sarcastically) describe the US as "a disgusting, dystopian, backwards, hellhole" in August 2020? Surely you see the irony? [[User:BlackHat|BlackHat]] ([[User talk:BlackHat|talk]]) 06:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC) | :::: Whoa there. Speaking as an American, Erkin is right. We have two parties. One dimension, left or right. There are plenty more established parties in Europe, making it -- you guessed it -- multidimensional. While their comment was indeed mostly unprompted, I think we might be a little touchy here. I am curious, though, as to why you chose to (I'm assuming sarcastically) describe the US as "a disgusting, dystopian, backwards, hellhole" in August 2020? Surely you see the irony? [[User:BlackHat|BlackHat]] ([[User talk:BlackHat|talk]]) 06:55, 28 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
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What is the 'Needle' referring to? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.142.4|162.158.142.4]] 17:46, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | What is the 'Needle' referring to? [[Special:Contributions/162.158.142.4|162.158.142.4]] 17:46, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
: The Traumatic Needle can be found here... https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/the-new-york-times-election-needle-is-back-with-a-few-new-safety-features {{unsigned ip|162.158.106.126}} | : The Traumatic Needle can be found here... https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/the-new-york-times-election-needle-is-back-with-a-few-new-safety-features {{unsigned ip|162.158.106.126}} | ||
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I was reading this, expecting the last page (or the title text) to have someone commenting that lecturing to modern people about how things were in the past is a pretty trivial or bizarre waste of something as momentous as time travel; and top hat guy to reply that he didn't come to bring them a message, he's just avoiding the fireworks because he's fed up of the modern election-night media circus. -- [[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 17:50, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | I was reading this, expecting the last page (or the title text) to have someone commenting that lecturing to modern people about how things were in the past is a pretty trivial or bizarre waste of something as momentous as time travel; and top hat guy to reply that he didn't come to bring them a message, he's just avoiding the fireworks because he's fed up of the modern election-night media circus. -- [[User:Angel|Angel]] ([[User talk:Angel|talk]]) 17:50, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
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Does anyone have a source for the 1896 reporting via fireworks referred to here? I've done a few Google searches, but so far haven't found anything. Historic issues of the Chicago Tribune is behind a paywall, so I can't go look there directly. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 18:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | Does anyone have a source for the 1896 reporting via fireworks referred to here? I've done a few Google searches, but so far haven't found anything. Historic issues of the Chicago Tribune is behind a paywall, so I can't go look there directly. [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 18:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
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:::::Here's the transcription of that article (I have access through my ancestry account): "..."--[[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.6|172.68.65.6]] 14:05, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | :::::Here's the transcription of that article (I have access through my ancestry account): "..."--[[Special:Contributions/172.68.65.6|172.68.65.6]] 14:05, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
::::::Copyright problems. There is a paywall and we don't want to pay for it. Please explain the content with your own words or present a free source which may be possible because it's more than 100 years old. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:14, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | ::::::Copyright problems. There is a paywall and we don't want to pay for it. Please explain the content with your own words or present a free source which may be possible because it's more than 100 years old. --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 22:14, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
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::::Is the hovertext quote legit, too? –[[User:P1h3r1e3d13|P1h3r1e3d13]] ([[User talk:P1h3r1e3d13|talk]]) 23:15, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | ::::Is the hovertext quote legit, too? –[[User:P1h3r1e3d13|P1h3r1e3d13]] ([[User talk:P1h3r1e3d13|talk]]) 23:15, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
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There needs to be a reference to "Dewey Defeats Truman" in the explanation. When Megan says they will get the election results the next day this would not have been the correct reults. The Chicago Daily Tribune published a newspaper with the headline "Dewey Defeats Truman" but the newspaper article was wrong. Because of publishing deadlines they published what they thought was correct but more results came in later and Truman won. With the internet and 24 hour news stations this problem does not exist. Also perhaps there could be a reference to Florida's "hanging chad" which caused caused the election results to be decided in the coarts and not overnight. [[User:Punchcard|Punchcard]] ([[User talk:Punchcard|talk]]) 15:20, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | There needs to be a reference to "Dewey Defeats Truman" in the explanation. When Megan says they will get the election results the next day this would not have been the correct reults. The Chicago Daily Tribune published a newspaper with the headline "Dewey Defeats Truman" but the newspaper article was wrong. Because of publishing deadlines they published what they thought was correct but more results came in later and Truman won. With the internet and 24 hour news stations this problem does not exist. Also perhaps there could be a reference to Florida's "hanging chad" which caused caused the election results to be decided in the coarts and not overnight. [[User:Punchcard|Punchcard]] ([[User talk:Punchcard|talk]]) 15:20, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
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No one else sees parallels to the {{w|Papal conclave#Smoke colors|smoke colors}} after a papal conclave? It's white and black there, but the principle is the same (no telecommunication, ...) --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:15, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | No one else sees parallels to the {{w|Papal conclave#Smoke colors|smoke colors}} after a papal conclave? It's white and black there, but the principle is the same (no telecommunication, ...) --[[User:Dgbrt|Dgbrt]] ([[User talk:Dgbrt|talk]]) 20:15, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
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Is the needle a relative of the good old swingometer. The BBc's favoured method of showing predicted General Election results based on polling and a uniform swing. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.39.41|162.158.39.41]] 00:06, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | Is the needle a relative of the good old swingometer. The BBc's favoured method of showing predicted General Election results based on polling and a uniform swing. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.39.41|162.158.39.41]] 00:06, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
: As depicted by [https://youtu.be/dVI5ZOT5QEM Monty Python]? [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 13:42, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | : As depicted by [https://youtu.be/dVI5ZOT5QEM Monty Python]? [[User:Shamino|Shamino]] ([[User talk:Shamino|talk]]) 13:42, 6 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
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