Editing Talk:2213: How Old

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Interestingly enough this comic is actually not about [[:Category:Comics to make one feel old|feeling old]]... Even with this title. Was all surprised :-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:37, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
:Well for many elderly people it is quite a nuisance to be treated like a little kid, especially when in retirement homes. While some might enjoy childish activities, for others, especially those whose mental state may be better than their physical, it is very annoying to be "forced" to play children games. That, and that being treated like a kid, kinda makes them notice their age even more. So even though this doesn't make the reader old (unless the reader is at an age where being treated similar to a child is a regular experience), it might make Cueballs dad feel old. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 09:42, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

:For adults, especially Women, it is often considered rude to ask for their age.  Whereas for kids, and to a lesser extent for elderly adults, it can be considered polite to ask about their age.  In the case of kids, they are very aware of their age and how it relates to others, and are usually happy to talk about it.  For the elderly, their age can be a source of pride if many of their peers have died but they are still in relatively good health. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 17:14, 9 October 2019 (UTC)


"I'd like you to meet my ''$foo''."<br>
"Aww, what's [ten times] the natural logarithm of their age?"<br>
[[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 11:21, 9 October 2019 (UTC)         
:You mean the base 10 logarithm or the ln? {{unsigned|172.68.65.252|23:13, 9 October 2019}}
::Well, '.252, I think "natural logarithm" is pretty clear. It means ''ln''. In this case, I chose the natural log because human development is far more rapid around age 2.718281828 than it is around age 10. So a ''deciln()'' of 10 or 20 or 30 corresponds to an ''e''-year-old, a 7 year-old, or a 20-year-old. Whereas in base 10, it'd be a 10-year-old, a 100-year-old, or a 1000-year-old. That's a lot less useful. I also like the idea of a negative ''deciln()'' indicating a person who probably can't meaningfully speak. If the max human lifetime is 160 years, a ''deciln()'' gives a range from -58 to 51, which is a  more helpful than base ten range of -25 to 22. Contrariwise, I agree that a range -100 to +100 has some appeal, which would suggest a base of 1.6611, but since that's not a common log base, I did not suggest it. [[User:JohnHawkinson|JohnHawkinson]] ([[User talk:JohnHawkinson|talk]]) 23:57, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
::: +1! I ''really'' like this idea! [[User:John.Adriaan|John.Adriaan]] ([[User talk:John.Adriaan|talk]]) 04:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
:::a deciln would be a tenth of a ln, not ten times. [[Special:Contributions/188.114.103.131|188.114.103.131]]

While old people ''may'' indeed become more "compressed" (as per current version of explanation - skeletal or specifically spinal one presumes, though head hair might be flatter and less prominent) perhaps the word "stooped" would be better, as it covers a dec(/inc)line of posture (involuntary or passively voluntary spinal curveture converting youthful height into a lean, bandied/steadying sacrificing verticality legs, hunching of the kneck, lessening of chest inflation and general hunching) as well as the age-related joint compression and bone decalcification effects.  (Another possible reference is that the one remembering how high the person was might have been shorter themselves the last time they could have held their hand up to a given height, so their self-centric relative measure is now overheight to the 'datum' of the already matured person in front of them. But I actually do think that elder-shrinkage ''is'' the actual intention of the words, if it's just one thing.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.222|162.158.34.222]] 15:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

== Randall's relatives ==
Given Randall's inclination to use a sailor's cap to represent older relatives, I wonder if ''his'' father was a sailor? [[User:John.Adriaan|John.Adriaan]] ([[User talk:John.Adriaan|talk]]) 04:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
:Also, that might be the influence of his time in the Hampton Roads area. With a major shipyard and Naval Station Norfolk in the area, I'm sure there's a lot of Navy influence. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.37|172.69.63.37]] 13:53, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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 Interestingly enough this comic is actually not about [[:Category:Comics to make one feel old|feeling old]]... Even with this title. Was all surprised :-) --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:37, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 :Well for many elderly people it is quite a nuisance to be treated like a little kid, especially when in retirement homes. While some might enjoy childish activities, for others, especially those whose mental state may be better than their physical, it is very annoying to be "forced" to play children games. That, and that being treated like a kid, kinda makes them notice their age even more. So even though this doesn't make the reader old (unless the reader is at an age where being treated similar to a child is a regular experience), it might make Cueballs dad feel old. --[[User:Lupo|Lupo]] ([[User talk:Lupo|talk]]) 09:42, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
-::For adults, especially Women, it is often considered rude to ask for their age.  Whereas for kids, and to a lesser extent for elderly adults, it can be considered polite to ask about their age.  In the case of kids, they are very aware of their age and how it relates to others, and are usually happy to talk about it.  For the elderly, their age can be a source of pride if many of their peers have died but they are still in relatively good health. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 17:14, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
-:::I really don't see the relation to my post. This is not a comic about making the reader feel old. Also I do not think the father  (White Hat's not Cueball's) would feel old. Just embarrassed about Cueball's missing social interaction skills --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:44, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
+:For adults, especially Women, it is often considered rude to ask for their age.  Whereas for kids, and to a lesser extent for elderly adults, it can be considered polite to ask about their age.  In the case of kids, they are very aware of their age and how it relates to others, and are usually happy to talk about it.  For the elderly, their age can be a source of pride if many of their peers have died but they are still in relatively good health. [[User:N0lqu|-boB]] ([[User talk:N0lqu|talk]]) 17:14, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
-::::I think everyone (else) in this thread is young. Speaking as a person who has lost a centimeter or so in height since reaching adulthood: it made me feel old. [[User:Nitpicking|Nitpicking]] ([[User talk:Nitpicking|talk]]) 10:53, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 "I'd like you to meet my ''$foo''."<br>
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 ::: +1! I ''really'' like this idea! [[User:John.Adriaan|John.Adriaan]] ([[User talk:John.Adriaan|talk]]) 04:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 :::a deciln would be a tenth of a ln, not ten times. [[Special:Contributions/188.114.103.131|188.114.103.131]]
-::::Yes, a better name would be [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decalogue ''decalog.''] [[User:Tracy Hall|Tracy Hall]] ([[User talk:Tracy Hall|talk]]) 03:42, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 While old people ''may'' indeed become more "compressed" (as per current version of explanation - skeletal or specifically spinal one presumes, though head hair might be flatter and less prominent) perhaps the word "stooped" would be better, as it covers a dec(/inc)line of posture (involuntary or passively voluntary spinal curveture converting youthful height into a lean, bandied/steadying sacrificing verticality legs, hunching of the kneck, lessening of chest inflation and general hunching) as well as the age-related joint compression and bone decalcification effects.  (Another possible reference is that the one remembering how high the person was might have been shorter themselves the last time they could have held their hand up to a given height, so their self-centric relative measure is now overheight to the 'datum' of the already matured person in front of them. But I actually do think that elder-shrinkage ''is'' the actual intention of the words, if it's just one thing.) [[Special:Contributions/162.158.34.222|162.158.34.222]] 15:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
-When someone asks my age I:
+== Randall's relatives ==
-) tell them it's classified -- especially in a work or interview situation where it's none of their business
-) tell them how old my brain thinks I am (24)
-) tell them my real age only if we're already seriously in a committed relationship  [[User:Cellocgw|Cellocgw]] ([[User talk:Cellocgw|talk]]) 12:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
-;Randall's relatives
 Given Randall's inclination to use a sailor's cap to represent older relatives, I wonder if ''his'' father was a sailor? [[User:John.Adriaan|John.Adriaan]] ([[User talk:John.Adriaan|talk]]) 04:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 :Also, that might be the influence of his time in the Hampton Roads area. With a major shipyard and Naval Station Norfolk in the area, I'm sure there's a lot of Navy influence. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.63.37|172.69.63.37]] 13:53, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
-::I do not think so. This is just his idea of how to represent a stick figure as old,without trying to draw wrinkles. --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
-Isn't there some joke about the flirting that can imply? I'm surprised no one took it up. [[Special:Contributions/162.158.134.166|162.158.134.166]] 10:57, 16 October 2019 (UTC)Zyramere
-:I cannot see that? --[[User:Kynde|Kynde]] ([[User talk:Kynde|talk]]) 09:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC)