Talk:2821: Path Minimization

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Judging from the angle of the arms, I do not believe that the swimmer is in distress. In fact I think the swimmer is just a future projection of Cueball, not a separate person.

I agree that the swimmer does not appear to be in distress, although the title text suggests that it is probably a separate person.
My personal interpretation is that the situation is "meeting a friend at the beach to get ice cream". Options are either a) meet the friend first and then swim back to get ice cream or b) get ice cream first and take it out to eat together in the water. 172.70.86.54 04:02, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Or the more sensible walk to the water's edge and wait for your friend to swim in to meet you... 172.70.85.29 08:43, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
I agree as well, I changed it to "possibly in distress". Barmar (talk) 04:43, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
I changed it further. Still admits the possibility, but less possibly than "possibly" hints at. (It is, nonetheless, a (mostly!) typical "you need to get here, minimising <some form of time/distance/energy/endurance resource>, what is the optimal strategy" tbing that lifesaving courses might include to train you in such considerations. 172.71.242.82 09:01, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Technically, the path that minimizes swimming passed a nearby boat rental stand. (by the way, I didn't write the unsigned paragraph above this one) 172.69.247.40 03:05, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

When I first saw the comic, I thought cueball was suspended on a tether in the air above the water, and the ice cream stand was floating. I didn't realize it was a beach until I read this explanation. Barmar (talk) 04:41, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

The ice cream path reminds me of the bread-first search (similar punchline). 172.71.182.158 06:55, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Noting, in passing, that an almost "flosbury flop"-like path could have been shown, too. A gentle curve, bending to hit the shore somewhere between shortest-time and shortest-swim, that would allow maximum run-up to dive into the water at the right angle to then power straight towards the target with the original running impetus turned straight into initial swimming speed, with no sharp turns involved. (Also, an 'Aquaman' line, perhaps exactly complimentary to the land-favouring 'bent-leg' routes, minimising/reducing land in favour of water.) 172.71.242.82

This was one of my first edits in this wiki, so I hope I didn't do anything wrong. I think this comic clearly references Feynman's Lifeguard problem (there is an almost identical diagram in his QED book) and the Ice-cream vendor problem. I wrote a couple of paragraphs explaining this, but they were promptly deleted by the next editor. Did I do something wrong? I think the explanation is incomplete without those references. Prallax (talk) 10:08, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Seeing the history, this is probably just an edit conflict, you should insert your contribution again. Cochonou (talk) 11:54, 29 August 2023 (UTC)