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: Another reference to the 2003 movie ''{{w|The Core}}''. We should add a category. --[[Special:Contributions/172.71.114.123|172.71.114.123]] 00:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 
: Another reference to the 2003 movie ''{{w|The Core}}''. We should add a category. --[[Special:Contributions/172.71.114.123|172.71.114.123]] 00:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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: The only complaint I have about the Transcript is that... it isn't really a Transcript if it has a table rather than explaining how it has a table. We can, and do, essentially have a tabular table in the Explanation. The Transcript really should be there so that text-searches or screen-readers that aren't advanced enough to understand the formatted layout get a 'free text' description to look at.
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: I know [[2313: Wrong Times Table|other Transcripts]] use html/mediawiki tables, perhaps where you got the idea. But they shouldn't. Check out those that "do a table without the markup". For some, it's [[2502: Every Data Table|simple], for others it's [[1026: Compare and Contrast|not as simple]] (or it's [[2723: Outdated Periodic Table|very simple]] but almost takes more effort to descripe in Transcript prose than in the wikimarkup version). And there are [[1070: Words for Small Sets|others with formatting issues]] creeping into the Transcript that I might take against how it was done (Transcripts that actually reproduce text effects (boldness, colour, justification, size) should also ":[describe the text effect]" too, but that one introduces bold title (actually a "definition list" markup, which sort of increases context of the content).
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: ...sorry, long message. I absolutely love that we're getting new editors. I think you can probably "detabularise the table" easy enough, though, without having wasted too much effort (you seem like got the actual table-markup right enough that you didn't have to think too much, so I count most of your 'effort' being the actual transcription of the comic text - and that's exactly what a re-Transcription effort would straight up preserve as most important!). Just thought I'd opine that in order to adhere to practices here (long standing; long enough to have gained a few long-standing 'wrong ways to do it', as in the ones I note above!) you might like to consider tweaking it accordingly.
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: Or I could do it, but that might be plain rude. (Rud''er''?)
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: Leaving it open to your choice (or the huge argument between descriptivists and formattists!)... [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.164|172.69.79.164]] 01:05, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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''45°C–100°C: Only a few people could survive such external temperatures, for extended periods, ...''
 
''45°C–100°C: Only a few people could survive such external temperatures, for extended periods, ...''
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Although temperatures dropped below 40°C at night, not everyone survived it. :(
 
Although temperatures dropped below 40°C at night, not everyone survived it. :(
 
—Actually I was thinking about [[wikipedia:Sauna|Sauna]]s, they reach 80°C, but are used much shorter than I always thought (15 minutes, thank you Wikipedia). --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.247.117|172.70.247.117]] 00:36, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 
—Actually I was thinking about [[wikipedia:Sauna|Sauna]]s, they reach 80°C, but are used much shorter than I always thought (15 minutes, thank you Wikipedia). --[[Special:Contributions/172.70.247.117|172.70.247.117]] 00:36, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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:I contributed the above. I did originally have it much longer than "for extended periods", but cut it back to just that. Really, once you get above an ambient temperature of 42.somethingDegreesC (that covers most of the operational ranges that the usual references give), you're getting parboiled. At best. Sweating just doesn't help enough to keep most bodies cool in an environment that hot. (If the body is doing it to itself, then you've got something bad going on. Or you've decided to {{w|2,4-Dinitrophenol|make your body 'burn hotter'}}, artificially...)
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:I'm open to it being reworded (how could I not be?), but I cut it back from a "loadsa-links" version to the rather short and snappy (and linkless, I now realise!) assertion you see before you. I'm sure you (plural-you!) will run with whatever you (ditto) think best.  I was actually originally just going to mark the point at which the rather short list of core-body temperature ranges was being subtly(?) changed into environmental temperature ranges, anyway. (i.e., somewhere within the 45-100 range, you definitely stop being the former and (apart from some rather (un)fortunate survivors of fires/atom-bomb-blasts) pivot very much into being the latter). [[Special:Contributions/172.69.79.164|172.69.79.164]] 01:05, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

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I was feeling a bit cold, actually, but now I'm back down to around 94.5 °De... 172.69.79.188 22:11, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

I edited this wiki for the first time :) Well, it was just the transcript but a first time is still a first time DNA diva (talk) 22:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Another reference to the 2003 movie The Core. We should add a category. --172.71.114.123 00:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
The only complaint I have about the Transcript is that... it isn't really a Transcript if it has a table rather than explaining how it has a table. We can, and do, essentially have a tabular table in the Explanation. The Transcript really should be there so that text-searches or screen-readers that aren't advanced enough to understand the formatted layout get a 'free text' description to look at.
I know other Transcripts use html/mediawiki tables, perhaps where you got the idea. But they shouldn't. Check out those that "do a table without the markup". For some, it's [[2502: Every Data Table|simple], for others it's not as simple (or it's very simple but almost takes more effort to descripe in Transcript prose than in the wikimarkup version). And there are others with formatting issues creeping into the Transcript that I might take against how it was done (Transcripts that actually reproduce text effects (boldness, colour, justification, size) should also ":[describe the text effect]" too, but that one introduces bold title (actually a "definition list" markup, which sort of increases context of the content).
...sorry, long message. I absolutely love that we're getting new editors. I think you can probably "detabularise the table" easy enough, though, without having wasted too much effort (you seem like got the actual table-markup right enough that you didn't have to think too much, so I count most of your 'effort' being the actual transcription of the comic text - and that's exactly what a re-Transcription effort would straight up preserve as most important!). Just thought I'd opine that in order to adhere to practices here (long standing; long enough to have gained a few long-standing 'wrong ways to do it', as in the ones I note above!) you might like to consider tweaking it accordingly.
Or I could do it, but that might be plain rude. (Ruder?)
Leaving it open to your choice (or the huge argument between descriptivists and formattists!)... 172.69.79.164 01:05, 6 January 2024 (UTC)


45°C–100°C: Only a few people could survive such external temperatures, for extended periods, ... Wow, I am glad that I survived the 65°C at Filsen in summer 2019. Although temperatures dropped below 40°C at night, not everyone survived it. :( —Actually I was thinking about Saunas, they reach 80°C, but are used much shorter than I always thought (15 minutes, thank you Wikipedia). --172.70.247.117 00:36, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I contributed the above. I did originally have it much longer than "for extended periods", but cut it back to just that. Really, once you get above an ambient temperature of 42.somethingDegreesC (that covers most of the operational ranges that the usual references give), you're getting parboiled. At best. Sweating just doesn't help enough to keep most bodies cool in an environment that hot. (If the body is doing it to itself, then you've got something bad going on. Or you've decided to make your body 'burn hotter', artificially...)
I'm open to it being reworded (how could I not be?), but I cut it back from a "loadsa-links" version to the rather short and snappy (and linkless, I now realise!) assertion you see before you. I'm sure you (plural-you!) will run with whatever you (ditto) think best. I was actually originally just going to mark the point at which the rather short list of core-body temperature ranges was being subtly(?) changed into environmental temperature ranges, anyway. (i.e., somewhere within the 45-100 range, you definitely stop being the former and (apart from some rather (un)fortunate survivors of fires/atom-bomb-blasts) pivot very much into being the latter). 172.69.79.164 01:05, 6 January 2024 (UTC)