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Contrary to the current explanation, it appears you can search for [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%207-d&geo=US&q=Cocktail%20recipe,Hangover%20cure&hl=en cocktail recipe searches vs hangover cure searches] at a sub-daily resolution. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.103|108.162.210.103]] 07:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
Contrary to the current explanation, it appears you can search for [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%207-d&geo=US&q=Cocktail%20recipe,Hangover%20cure&hl=en cocktail recipe searches vs hangover cure searches] at a sub-daily resolution. [[Special:Contributions/108.162.210.103|108.162.210.103]] 07:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
:As of my check, just now, I find it very funny that the (current) state-map attached to that result seems to indicate that every state trend predominantly is for searching for cocktails, between the two options. Except for Wyoming, which is solidly the one and only "hangover" state. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.115|172.70.90.115]] 10:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)~
 
:As of my check, just now, I find it very funny that the (current) state-map attached to that result seems to indicate that every state trend predominantly is for searching for cocktails, between the two options. Except for Wyoming, which is solidly the one and only "hangover" state. [[Special:Contributions/172.70.90.115|172.70.90.115]] 10:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)~
::It's likely because there's only like 7 people living there. [[User:Tcf|Tcf]] ([[User talk:Tcf|talk]]) 13:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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::It's likely because there's only like 7 people living there. Looking worldwide, Nigeria is the only "hangover country". [[User:Tcf|Tcf]] ([[User talk:Tcf|talk]]) 13:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::And Russians drink but don't have hangovers. [[Special:Contributions/172.69.22.185|172.69.22.185]] 16:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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::::They do. But they probably don't need to search for cure as they already know. -- [[User:Hkmaly|Hkmaly]] ([[User talk:Hkmaly|talk]]) 19:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
  
 
Google solar cycle? Ok. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.58.143|172.68.58.143]] 13:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
Google solar cycle? Ok. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.58.143|172.68.58.143]] 13:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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If cocktail and hangover cure searches are both purely diurnal, it would be difficult to tell which comes first. But there's actually a larger cycle of the daily peak volumes. When you compare these two graphs, you can see that the hangover line follows the cocktail line. This strongly suggests a cause and effect. [[User:Barmar|Barmar]] ([[User talk:Barmar|talk]]) 14:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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Is it a coincidence that a major solar flare occurred on the date of this comic, for which NOAA issued a geomagnetic storm warning for Friday through Sunday? [[User:Ianrbibtitlht|Ianrbibtitlht]] ([[User talk:Ianrbibtitlht|talk]]) 19:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
  
 
==Spike of March 8, 2012==
 
==Spike of March 8, 2012==
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::...we'd still be repairing the infrastructure damage in 1860? ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.4|172.71.242.4]] 04:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
::...we'd still be repairing the infrastructure damage in 1860? ;) [[Special:Contributions/172.71.242.4|172.71.242.4]] 04:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
:::...our entire society as we know it would've collapsed long ago. [[User:Psychoticpotato|Psychoticpotato]] ([[User talk:Psychoticpotato|talk]]) 12:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
:::...our entire society as we know it would've collapsed long ago. [[User:Psychoticpotato|Psychoticpotato]] ([[User talk:Psychoticpotato|talk]]) 12:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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::::Maybe it did and we actually had the internet in 1859 but the solar storm was so bad that it wiped out any traces of it as well as people's memories of it. [[Special:Contributions/172.71.22.72|172.71.22.72]] 19:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::::Dementia Storm? Woah... [[User:Psychoticpotato|Psychoticpotato]] ([[User talk:Psychoticpotato|talk]]) 20:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
  
 
==Correct URL?==
 
==Correct URL?==
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:I second this comment, and wish to ask what exactly Randall's settings were on, because "worldwide" and "2004-present" don't match the comic.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.114.63|162.158.114.63]] 13:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
:I second this comment, and wish to ask what exactly Randall's settings were on, because "worldwide" and "2004-present" don't match the comic.[[Special:Contributions/162.158.114.63|162.158.114.63]] 13:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
::Neither do "United States" and "2004-present". For future record, the worldwide graph has a peak of 100 in 2011 and other peaks in the low dozens in 2014, 2017, 2021, and a mere 25 in 2024. [[User:Tcf|Tcf]] ([[User talk:Tcf|talk]]) 13:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
::Neither do "United States" and "2004-present". For future record, the worldwide graph has a peak of 100 in 2011 and other peaks in the low dozens in 2014, 2017, 2021, and a mere 25 in 2024. [[User:Tcf|Tcf]] ([[User talk:Tcf|talk]]) 13:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::The actual peak is in March 2012, not 2011. If Randall's "y axis" is set to 2005, then the peak is correctly shown, and the "11 year gap" appears to be 2013-2024.  But the Y-axis doesn't appear to be to scale, at least not a linear one.  But hey, it's a freehand-drawn comic, so I'm okay with a little imprecision.  [[Special:Contributions/172.68.26.25|172.68.26.25]] 16:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:57, 10 May 2024

When I opened the page I found a bunch of vague misspelled content (maybe spammers or bots? I don't know) so I updated the explanation. Not very knowledgeable about most things, though, so it probably still is not good enough. DNA diva (talk) 01:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Looking at the first couple of user-edits ("first" Explanation and subsequent Transcript edit), I think they were 'rushed' in order to establish the whole "first"ness and/or escape possible Edit Conflicts (probably needlessly, looking at timings). Not precise enough to be 'AI bot' text (accuracy being different, of course), and no obvious spam-intent.
Could have done with more care to be taken, so as not needing to be entirely revamped by the likes of yourself, somewhat diluting the 'kudos' and making the little effort taken almost entirely pointless. But I like eagerness. Next time, perhaps, a bit of care will go into the mix and we'll be on the way to another useful contributor. 172.71.242.4 04:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

This comic got me to search about Danger Kitty (talk) solar flares too.

Contrary to the current explanation, it appears you can search for cocktail recipe searches vs hangover cure searches at a sub-daily resolution. 108.162.210.103 07:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

As of my check, just now, I find it very funny that the (current) state-map attached to that result seems to indicate that every state trend predominantly is for searching for cocktails, between the two options. Except for Wyoming, which is solidly the one and only "hangover" state. 172.70.90.115 10:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)~
It's likely because there's only like 7 people living there. Looking worldwide, Nigeria is the only "hangover country". Tcf (talk) 13:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
And Russians drink but don't have hangovers. 172.69.22.185 16:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
They do. But they probably don't need to search for cure as they already know. -- Hkmaly (talk) 19:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Google solar cycle? Ok. 172.68.58.143 13:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

If cocktail and hangover cure searches are both purely diurnal, it would be difficult to tell which comes first. But there's actually a larger cycle of the daily peak volumes. When you compare these two graphs, you can see that the hangover line follows the cocktail line. This strongly suggests a cause and effect. Barmar (talk) 14:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Is it a coincidence that a major solar flare occurred on the date of this comic, for which NOAA issued a geomagnetic storm warning for Friday through Sunday? Ianrbibtitlht (talk) 19:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Spike of March 8, 2012[edit]

As far as the spike about 12 years ago, there was this. 162.158.175.149 00:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Speaking of spikes, what if the internet and Google Trends had existed in 1859? 172.71.166.135 00:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
...we'd still be repairing the infrastructure damage in 1860? ;) 172.71.242.4 04:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
...our entire society as we know it would've collapsed long ago. Psychoticpotato (talk) 12:36, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Maybe it did and we actually had the internet in 1859 but the solar storm was so bad that it wiped out any traces of it as well as people's memories of it. 172.71.22.72 19:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Dementia Storm? Woah... Psychoticpotato (talk) 20:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Correct URL?[edit]

Is this the correct URL for the query? It's a lot more jagged than I was expecting. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=%2Fm%2F0f81b&hl=en Thanks~

I second this comment, and wish to ask what exactly Randall's settings were on, because "worldwide" and "2004-present" don't match the comic.162.158.114.63 13:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Neither do "United States" and "2004-present". For future record, the worldwide graph has a peak of 100 in 2011 and other peaks in the low dozens in 2014, 2017, 2021, and a mere 25 in 2024. Tcf (talk) 13:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
The actual peak is in March 2012, not 2011. If Randall's "y axis" is set to 2005, then the peak is correctly shown, and the "11 year gap" appears to be 2013-2024. But the Y-axis doesn't appear to be to scale, at least not a linear one. But hey, it's a freehand-drawn comic, so I'm okay with a little imprecision. 172.68.26.25 16:04, 9 May 2024 (UTC)