Talk:3290: Trade

See also the hacker news discussion.

Wow! this is my first time seeing a xkcd without an explanation yet! 2600:1700:8932:D000:585E:490:452C:4830 21:50, 26 August 2026 (UTC)Andrew

Given the wildly different times of comics being published (and then picked up by the BOT, or otherwise placed on this site), it's pretty much luck of the draw. I'm not sure how to quantify this on a 'One in ten-thousand' basis, but you can probably justifiably feel pleased about the experience.

I've decided to reply to you rather than jump in on the explanation, myself, given the fact that this one's loaded with politics. Which may well mean a very active Talk page, if similar past comics are any indication. 92.23.0.28 22:32, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Also the first time I can remember a political cartoon. Not that I'm complaining. 96.231.105.86 (talk) 22:15, 26 August 2026 (UTC) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

It happens from time to time. I presume Randall avoids most of the obvious ones because they're low-hanging fruit - and because they reward the conspiracy theorists in the anti-science crowd with engagement. There was an overt endorsement in 2016, but since then... well, just stating basic economic and medical facts is viewed as "political" (Are scientific, environmental, or economic/mathematical strips truly *political*?). Still, after a decade of watching the sane-washing, sometimes it's an emotional release to address the elephants in the room. Whaddya know, there's even a category Category:Politics. 158.173.67.82 23:30, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

In case you ever wondered what it was like living in Germany in 1939 ... look around you. As a founding member of Generation Jones, I look about me and wonder where all the folk are who, in the 1960s, roared mightily to take down a regime far less toxic than the one we now have - and found them all, safe from the draft that was all that they really cared about ("god this might hit me!!1!!"), sitting placidly and counting their money. Maybe Randall's general political silence reflects his realization that you rise up against it or you own it (Thomas Hobbes be damned), and he has chosen to own it, or he might get hurt. As all of us have.205.175.118.2 20:23, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Cold War East Germany had more of a modern surveillance state. Take the worst of both worlds, and make the surveillance automated and ubiquitous. For a lot of us, there's the constant emotional burn-out. Anything political Randall could write is preaching to the choir: provide more intellectual support to people who already agree with you, while providing more targets for your opponents to shoot down. They are not going to be swayed by facts or logic. Why bother making strips about it when they will only depress and alienate readers worldwide? To make us feel smug and superior to the deniers? I also wonder how much authors with international audiences stop focusing on US-centric politics. Randall's audiences worldwide know how absurd this all is, and don't need to waste their attention span on it. Why add more sound to an echo chamber? Scifi that describes today's reality and includes Butler's "Parable of the Sower (novel)", with the economic and ecological collapses contributing to the Middle-Class Squeeze and neofeudalism. I would love to see a series of strips on "Consequences of Policy", but it would get dark... fast. 158.173.67.235 02:21, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.... 115.64.254.252 23:47, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

The text below the frame "TARIFFS" matches the title of previous comic 3073 "TARIFFS" Martin (talk) 00:48, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

So is the US the heart or the arm in this analogy? 2600:1700:2120:5880:1941:8BC:9DCC:EC6C 02:24, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

If you think about it, a trade deficit means that, on the net, the US sends money out and receives goods and services in return. Now, from the perspective of the people, it's better to have goods and services than to have money; consumption of products produces happiness. But, from the perspective of politicians, that's bad, because they value GDP, gross domestic production. They value production, not consumption. It seems there is a goal mismatch here. --Troy0 (talk) 02:31, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

A trade deficit is not bad on its own. Trump just hears deficit and thinks bad, and that's about all there is to it. Whether it's nice for most Americans to not having to work in electronics factories? No matter. The USA gets to dictate domestic policy all over the world due to their economic influence? Way too complicated. --2A02:908:C30:5000:FDE1:5EEA:8A94:4656 06:19, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Someone get this guy a line to the Secretary of Commerce! Better yet, appoint HIM as Secretary of Commerce! He's so dang smart, and can think of things no one else has ever thought of before! [/s] 198.99.80.100 19:33, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

"consumption of products produces happiness."^{[citation needed]} 82.13.184.33 08:42, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Furthermore, while the US receives valuable products and raw materials, their trade partners only get useless dollar notes. Can't pay your taxes in US dollars in most countries. --Coconut Galaxy (talk) 11:59, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

"Leg" as a weak pun on Legislature? JohnHawkinson (talk) 03:00, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

That seems like a coincidence more than a pun, since tariffs may be imposed by legislatures but not against legislatures. --168.91.205.39 13:50, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

I do like your inferral about what happens when the system of checks and balances breaks down, and the executive starts attacking the legislative, but it's not implied by the strip. 158.173.67.90 15:48, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

A "leg/legislature" pun seems a stretch. Like touching your toes, or doing the splits. --149.5.107.54 14:04, 30 August 2026 (UTC)

Anonymous groan. 158.173.67.243 13:58, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

So "oxygen rich blood" == money and "legwork" == products, right? The analogy quickly breaks down though, since it is very difficult for arms to be legs - what is preventing the US from producing it's own goods and services? If the trade deficit was just maple syrup and awesome hats then the analogy is perfect, since Canada can produce those much better. 2a00:79e0:2edc:a:e5dc:eeb1:2fab:cc56 (talk) 16:47, 27 August 2026 (UTC) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

To say nothing of the fact that the world does not function cooperatively like an organism in its geopolitics; this imposes a dangerously naive interpretation that "everyone in the world is trying to get along and work together, except for the odd warmonger." That's not how the world works at all, and never has been. It's a profoundly bad analogy. Randall would be invited to study basically ANY history. 198.99.80.100 19:23, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

I just added a notice to this talk page mentioning the discussion on hacker news. Velocifyer (talk) 18:19, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Remember the past comic on tariffs? I sure hope we don't have vandalism like that again... tori :3^{talk to me!} 20:21, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Why is the discuss page blue now? Xkdvd (talk) 21:23, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

A design decision was made. Not just on the Discussion Page insert, either.

Not sure I like it, yet, but I neither do I dislike it. :P

Maybe it'll grow on me/you. 92.23.0.28 21:41, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Somebody likes blue? Shrug. I would have gone with light sepia(a (tanish yellow brown)(maybe))that is as easy on my eyes as this background blue.

Full out bright white back ground makes black text hard for me to read. I see txt best with full on black background, bright orange txt. But that offends me so I use black and white and a slightly larger white font. 2607:FB91:5181:5E48:B8C6:9A97:6BB:129 05:02, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

I like the blue. However, I don't like that on the main page it signifies the explanation of the comic, while on the individual strip's page it signifies the discussion about the comic and it's not in use at all on the separate 'Talk' page. I'd prefer if it signified the same thing on all pages, for consistency's sake. That reminds me, does the site have a 'Dark View' mode yet? 158.173.67.141 14:13, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

A direct page view tends (given the global settings on this wiki) to show that page as white. Thus the "separate 'Talk' page" view is white (more or less), as it is for the enveloping main comic page, as it is for the main-page.

When the comic-Talk page is embedded into the comic-parent page, the template used to do applies a background colour to it. Similarly, the embedding of the comic-parent page (less the Discussion section, due to designer 'no-includes' preventing double-layered embedding) is made with a choice of hue. Yet another hue is given to the main page's TWEFI-inclusion section (I've not been keeping track of the mechanism behind that, but would presume it's a very similar methodology as with the inclusion of the latest comic).

All these colours can be changed (especially easy where that's a function of the Discussion template, etc), and perhaps there are better and more consistent colour combinations to be had. Perhaps worth more discussion over on the Portal pages? 92.23.0.28 21:29, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

People see what they want to see. The comic doesn't mention trade, Canada or even the US. It is just about explaining the blood circulation and reflexes in a funny way. --2001:638:807:508:BFD4:6773:9092:F4AA 08:08, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

While I'm also mostly reluctant to making wild conclusions about whether or not a comic is a political comment this one is quite obvious, given it says "Tariffs" below the panel and is titled "Trade". Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 11:52, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Yeah it must be talking about Canada's insane Tariffs on the USA. Surely Randall wouldn't arrogantly call Canada a foot while USA a heart or arm.2A00:23EE:1678:46EB:9421:6BFF:FE38:8417 15:47, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

The analogy I use is "How *DARE* you shoot yourself in the head (force your consumers to pay more for goods), in retaliation we're going to shoot ourselves in the head (force our consumers to pay more for goods)". Jgharston (talk) 11:44, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

Until "our consumers" look for cheaper alternatives that don't involve paying for tariffs (such as buying domestic), thus depriving the tariffed country of the revenue that they would have gotten otherwise. There's a reason national leaders dislike getting tariffed, and it's NOT because they're concerned about the other country's citizens having to spend more. 198.99.80.100 19:16, 1 September 2026 (UTC)