Talk:2936: Exponential Growth

If that's done by each of your moves being to add one (more) grain to the board, the game would last quite a while. Even with reduced time-limits on the game-clock. 172.70.91.154 21:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Hmmm. Interesting. 172.69.58.203 21:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

First transcript! Hope it's good.Danger Kitty (talk) 21:36, 22 May 2024‎ (you only ~~~ed, it looks like...)

Total of 2^64 - 1 ≈ 1.8 x 10^19 grains of rice. If a grain of rice averages 30 mg, then that's 5.5 x 10^14 kg of rice. That's around the mass of Lake Erie. 172.71.223.56 21:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

The legend about the chess board and doubling the grain placed on each square is researched here: https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/5992/what-is-the-origin-of-the-wheat-and-chessboard-legend 172.71.150.113 21:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)~

The rice is on the side or the board is turned wrong. 172.70.115.17 (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

...not sure what you mean here. (Also, do sign your contributions.) 172.70.162.186

The white square always goes on your right corner so this border is sideways (assuming we're looking at it head on, which seems likely) Apollo11 (talk) 23:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

a1 is a dark square, so wherever the one grain of rice is, it can't be a1. 172.71.102.35 08:41, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Either a8 or h1, which is SO annoying (most likley a mistake on Randall's part tho)Apollo11 (talk) 15:35, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

With all those zeros in the values given for row eight i assume we are looking at the limitations of someones calculation skills/calculator... last I checked 5 was not a factor of any 2^n value? 172.70.80.246 00:13, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I think we don't need this part at all. If we really want to illustrate the numbers we could simply use the illustration from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_and_chessboard_problem#Second_half_of_the_chessboard Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 07:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

That doesn't look like Hairy in the final panel. Is it a Kasparov caricature? Nitpicking (talk) 02:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I agree it is not the standard Hairy. Since this is Kasparovs gambit and Karpov tried to counter it, then it should be Karpov that walks out! Even though it is not Kasparaov but Black Hat that used the gambit. --Kynde (talk) 08:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Maybe it's the same Cueball from the first panel, but he's had to wait so long while Black Hat fetched all the rice that his hair grew out.172.70.160.249 13:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

I have to wonder if this comic is related to the Casablanca Chess Tournament that took place this past week, where 4 top-ranked players competed by playing a series of real historical games starting from the middle of each game. Magnus Carlsen won the tournament, which also included Hikaru Nakamura, Viswanathan Anand, and Bassem Amin. Ianrbibtitlht (talk) 04:38, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Russia pulling out of Black Sea agreement has been labelled "grain gambit" --172.71.131.158 06:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Trivia: 1. e2–e4 c7–c5 2. Sg1–f3 e7–e6 3. d2–d4 c5xd4 4. Sf3xd4 Sb8–c6 5. Sd4–b5 d7–d6 6. c2–c4 Sg8–f6 7. Sb1–c3 a7–a6 8. Sb5–a3 d6-d5!? is the Kasparov Gambit, see Wiki. 172.71.160.30 08:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

This is a completely normal amount of rice. I eat this much grain daily. Psychoticpotato (talk) 13:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Counter with Tree countergambit. plant tree(1) seeds in the first square and tree(2) on the next square then tree(3) in the next square. Nobody has found out what happens afterwards. 172.70.131.212 (talk) 14:25, 23 May 2024 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

So, out of curiosity, how many grains of rice can you actually fit on an average chess board square? Or maybe, how big would a chessboard have to be in order for the rice to fit on top of every square without overflowing? 172.69.91.144 22:13, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Assuming that its a standard size and it can stack up around 10 cubic inches upwards about 4117267200 grains Apollo11 (talk) 03:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Also, I noticed everyone here seems to have an ip in the 172.69.0.0 to 172.71.255.255 range, but I just checked and that's not even my ip address at the moment. What's that about? Does the wiki mask our actual ip addresses? 172.69.90.110 22:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Not the wiki, but the gateways to the wiki that help with load-balancing and related connection issues. And you'll also see some IPs in the 141.x.y.z range, and others. I usually am in 171.[69-71].y.z range, but between one contribution another I might be anywhere.

It's a known thing, for better or worse. Ultimately, there are behind-the-scenes details that would know the 'true' origin of everyone (give or take what load-balancing your own ISP also does at your side of the connection), but it's left obscured from our more plebian eyes.

Getting a username will also remove the wider and more general geographic potshots someone can make a out your origin (the gateways seen to be used are likely to reveal at least your continent, if anyone's bothered), but I never saw the need.

...now. I wonder under what range will the following put me..? => 172.69.194.96 23:34, 23 May 2024 (UTC) 8) Postscript: I first quickly used Preview, and I actually got the 141.range, then posted for real and got the 172s. About ten seconds between the two 'postings'. Hah! 141.101.98.129 23:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

"If exponential growth is unrestricted, it will eventually grow beyond the constraints of anything that could plausibly be built to contain it." - Given that the increase in rice grains is, itself, not plausible, I see no reason why the growth in size of rice cookers needs to be plausible either.141.101.98.119 09:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

I was tempted to add something about square/cube-law (not quite applicable, as there'll be a smidgen of cubing as you raise the square-area of container material, etc, but along tbose lines), but that of course makes the implausibility threshold of the cookers higher than the same threshold of rice (everything else being equal). So then you're on to the heat-penetration abilities (after a while, the outer rice is overcooked, when the innermost rice has barely felt the heat). And that leads me to believe that something like a rotary kiln design might be best adopted (external heat, internalised water delivery, properly tuned, and could even be effectively pressurised with the right cycling addons to either end) to just accept rice in at a constant rate and produce perfectly cooked rice at the commensurate output rate. Of course, exponential increase in feed would then require exponential increase in parallel rotary-cookers to handle it, but starting at an already more efficient/controllable mass-cooking process than merely upscaling a traditional pot-style cooker. 172.71.242.220 11:09, 24 May 2024 (UTC)