Talk:3158: Shielding Chart

Brb, going out to buy some lead. Fephisto (talk) 01:49, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

If you buy some oven mitts, too, you can get rid of the only two remaining penetrating substances (sound and heat) Logalex8369 (talk) 21:16, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

My new expansion to Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock is coming along nicely. KelOfTheStars! (talk) 02:25, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Ah yes, you can make sound in a vacuum! King Pando (talk) 02:41, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Well, there's air in her helmet, presumably... 160.39.41.199 05:05, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

We're not gonna have a good time filling out this table, are we? 47.141.47.226 05:14, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

i bet randall is laughing at those silly explainxkcd editors who now have to elaborate on every single square. if i were conspiratorial i'd say he wrote this just to spite us. raeb 08:46, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Nah, I'm good at filling out tables :) --DollarStoreBa'al^converse 13:07, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Is your name perhaps Bobby Tables? user:Seshan S. 10:25, 23 October 2025

Bobby Tables is good at deleting tables, not filling them out :) -Ash Crow (talk) 10:47, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

My name is Billy Tables, Bobby Tables' mild-mannered twin brother. Bobby is my evil twin here to cause mischief and mayhem in small wikis.--DollarStoreBa'al^converse 14:09, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

A bit surprised there's nothing about keeping Mr. Faraday away. --130.233.188.214 06:50, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

He was a doctor, so apples would do the job for that. 82.13.184.33 13:21, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

This came out a couple of weeks after the 50th anniversary of Jaws, so it's disappointing that "a bigger boat" isn't one of the protections. Barmar (talk) 14:24, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

"Air," "Lead," "Water," and "Glass," and a near-perfect "Vacuum" actually vary by thickness. I guess Oven mitts, armor, bio-hazard suits, faraday cages, and shark cages do too but those usually come in human-scale sizes. A meter of air won't give you significant protection against gamma rays, but if you are anywhere near sea level, the air above your head does. A near-perfect vacuum too wide for a shark to get to you before it dies will protect you, one only a few nanometers thick probably won't. 64.201.132.210 18:20, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

The best shield of all is distance. You just need enough of it. KelOfTheStars! (talk) 00:33, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

No - the best shield of all is the Hylian Shield. 82.13.184.33 08:31, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

Me & my brother read this whole thing and cracked up about it for several minutes. RadiantRainwing (talk) 03:03, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

This is definitely one of my favorite xkcd comics. I love the confusion matrix ones. RadiantRainwing (talk) 03:05, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

Wait, why no “raptors” row? I really want to see that. RadiantRainwing (talk) 03:09, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

I'm noticing that the transcript isn't looking too good right now, but I don't exactly have the time to fix it right now. Can someone look at 2998: Ravioli-Shaped Objects#Transcript and copy that format? Thanks, 42.book.addict^{Talk to me!} 03:44, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

There's now an "effect vs shield" row for every tile, plus (following on from how the first row started) a "effect-row" scene-setting description placeholder.

I put a list of the rows and columns at the top, just for quick 'scan down/along' reference by anyone reading that bit, but each cell explicitly starts with the "what vs what" and can (where it hasn't already been) be given the hue of the tile and then a followup line (or more!) which addresses the mini-vignette that depicts its particular clash of row header and column header.

Please do not bother with text-colo(u)rs. For one thing, set on default white page-background, the Yellow would be hard to read (by those who can read it) and also likely of zero value (by those who use text-to-audio to read it). The light grey would be bad enough, and the dirty-yellow could be as bad as either.

The reason I did this much is because someone had put a suggestion about copypasting the #hex HTML colour-codes which either was going to lead to the thing I've just said shouldn't be done or would have to be converted into the colour-code-equivalent descriptive plaintext, and still would not have the 'important everything vs. everything' reference which I quickly cobbled together to provide this structure.

Anyone with a text editor can still constructively search/replace anything within that basic structre that I've perhaps not done the way they think should be done (wrong capitalisation, the way the " - " sits between the "vs." and where the colour should be, whether "vs." is even the right way of describing it!), but the big job is actually trying to describe with sufficient detai what Cueball (or the fish/ice/whatever) is doing to prevent the appropriate effect by the (in)appropriate shield. Which I'm leaving for those in a time-zone more westerly than me (who aren't well beyond their healthy bedtimes) or far more easterly than me (for whom dawn has at least started to approach), or possibly just until people not significantly far from me in either direction find that they're more wide awake than anybody else around the world.

Of course, there's always a possibility that someone has been beavering away at it, offline, for a while now and is going to overwirte all that I did. Which is Ok too, and hopefully all credit to them. I may even now have spent more time writing this than I did putting my framework in, and I frankly hope to find this reply to be superfluous by the next time I check in, anyway, so I can delete it entirely and replace with a congratulatory message. ;) 2.98.65.8 00:43, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

So, with lead, water, vacuum, oven mitts, and either glass or a bio-hazard suit, I would be invincible. 67.4.71.239 22:01, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Randall's clearly only seen the film Jaws but not the book... --Darth Vader (talk) 10:16, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

Or a popular webcomic... ;) 2.98.65.8 18:16, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

cat proximity reference?

do you think shark vs water illustration could be a reference to 231:Cat Proximity ? 129.222.167.167 00:19, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

Almost certainly (the brick joke thrown back a second time with the Shark/Faraday Cage setup, etc).

I mean, it's also possible that they're depicting a catshark, but they generally aren't the threat that even dogfish sharks are (and are probably as harmless to humans, or their insufficiently shark-proofed cages, as catfish...), but I can't see it being any more advanced real-world reference like that. 2.98.65.8 00:49, 2 November 2025 (UTC)