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The comic is set in the future, with two hovering robot 'beings' discussing ancient history, in particular the clothing styles of kings and queens of the now extinct human race. It appears that robot archeologists have unearthed the remains of human civilization, including movies.
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The comic is set in the future, with two hovering robot 'beings' discussing ancient history, in particular the clothing styles of kings and queens of the now extinct human race. It appears that robot archeologists have unearthed the remains of human civilization, including something recently unearthed that presumably indicates the wearing of colorful clothing by human monarchs (most likely paintings).
  
 
When {{w|dinosaur}} bones were first dug up, the idea that dinosaurs were scaly, reptilian-like creatures was developed with the information available at the time.  In recent times, it's been discovered that most dinosaurs actually had {{w|Feathered dinosaur|feathers}} (checking the bones carefully shows shafts where the feathers would have attached.)
 
When {{w|dinosaur}} bones were first dug up, the idea that dinosaurs were scaly, reptilian-like creatures was developed with the information available at the time.  In recent times, it's been discovered that most dinosaurs actually had {{w|Feathered dinosaur|feathers}} (checking the bones carefully shows shafts where the feathers would have attached.)
  
As this runs counter to the widespread and long-held image of dinosaurs as these dramatic reptiles, the public has been reluctant to accept this new discovery, especially as the addition of feathers conjures up the image of a giant chicken. Had it been discovered that dinosaurs were in fact covered with 6" long razor tipped spikes, people would probably have accepted this immediately as it conforms to the sterotypical dinosaurs as a killing machine.
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As this runs counter to the widespread and long-held image of dinosaurs as these dramatic reptiles, the public has been reluctant to accept this new discovery, especially as the addition of feathers conjures up the image of a giant chicken. Had it been discovered that dinosaurs were in fact covered with 6" long razor tipped spikes, people may have accepted this immediately as it conforms to the stereotype of dinosaurs as killing machines. There have even been attempts to claim that the feathers did not exist.
There have even been attempts to claim that the feathers did not exist.
 
  
 
In the same way, the new information on kings and queens being covered in fabric runs counter to the movie inspired image that the robot on the right had about humans, picturing them as being pink warriors and that they had a leader who could grow metal out of his or her head. This probably comes around because they have found the tombs of kings and queens with their crowns lying on top of their skulls. Then it would just look like another part of their skeleton, if they do not know enough about our anatomy. Since they themselves are made of metal (maybe by humans who created their original AI), it may be easy to accept that humans also were part metal.
 
In the same way, the new information on kings and queens being covered in fabric runs counter to the movie inspired image that the robot on the right had about humans, picturing them as being pink warriors and that they had a leader who could grow metal out of his or her head. This probably comes around because they have found the tombs of kings and queens with their crowns lying on top of their skulls. Then it would just look like another part of their skeleton, if they do not know enough about our anatomy. Since they themselves are made of metal (maybe by humans who created their original AI), it may be easy to accept that humans also were part metal.
  
Shown the truth, that humans did typically wear clothing, and that a monarch's crown is not part of his or her body, but just a signifying clothing, the robot is disappointed.  Humans wearing clothing reduces them, in his opinion, to big silly pillows.  Something made of cloth cannot, in this robot's mind, be a significant actor in history.
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Shown at least some evidence pointing to the truth - that humans did typically wear clothing, and that a monarch's crown is not part of his or her body, but just a symbol worn on top of the head - the robot is probably disappointed.  Humans wearing clothing reduces them, in his opinion, to big silly pillows.  Something made of cloth (or covered in it), at least in this robot's mind, cannot be a significant actor in history.
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The robot fails to reason (insofar as a robot can reason) that, among other things, history was what it was, and its wanting things to have been a certain way does not make it so.  In addition, just as the clothing-wearing human is more than a mere pillow, a feathered dinosaur is not necessarily merely a giant chicken.
 
The robot fails to reason (insofar as a robot can reason) that, among other things, history was what it was, and its wanting things to have been a certain way does not make it so.  In addition, just as the clothing-wearing human is more than a mere pillow, a feathered dinosaur is not necessarily merely a giant chicken.
  
The title text references our failure to change the popular image of dinosaurs to reflect the way they truthfully once were. [[Randall]] jokingly suggests that we should apply the same "featherless is cooler" logic to popular images of Bald Eagles (the name says they're bald!), and remove their feathers, leaving them bald and horrible-looking.
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The title text references our failure to change the popular image of dinosaurs to reflect the way they truthfully once were. [[Randall]] jokingly suggests that we should apply the same "featherless is cooler" logic to popular images of Bald Eagles (the name says they're bald!), and remove their feathers (only in depictions of them, presumably), leaving them bald and horrible-looking.
  
 
As this comic was released a few weeks before the release of a new {{w|Jurassic Park}} movie, ''{{w|Jurassic World}}'', wherein the dinosaurs are still depicted without feathers, it seems likely that the robot comment on the more cool pink humans are targeted at this movie. Especially given Randall's many earlier [[:Category:Jurassic Park|references to Jurassic Park]] and his [[:Category:Velociraptors|fear of Velociraptors]].
 
As this comic was released a few weeks before the release of a new {{w|Jurassic Park}} movie, ''{{w|Jurassic World}}'', wherein the dinosaurs are still depicted without feathers, it seems likely that the robot comment on the more cool pink humans are targeted at this movie. Especially given Randall's many earlier [[:Category:Jurassic Park|references to Jurassic Park]] and his [[:Category:Velociraptors|fear of Velociraptors]].
  
The movie that the robot refers to is likely one of a type like the {{w|Peplum film genre|sword and sandal movies}}. Popular films from recent years that have that same look could be movies like {{w|300 (film)|300}} and {{w|Troy (film)|Troy}}. At least some of the movies that they refer to must include an almost naked king with a crown on his head.
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The movie that the robot refers to is likely a contemporary movie, series, or genre of a type like the {{w|Peplum film genre|sword and sandal movies}}. Popular films from recent years that have this same look could be {{w|300 (film)|300}} and {{w|Troy (film)|Troy}}. At least some of the movies that they refer to must include an (almost?) naked king with a crown on his head, or perhaps, like hair, even growing out of his head. These would have been produced by robots in relative ignorance or defiance of the actual events of the past.
  
 
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Revision as of 14:35, 20 May 2015

Humans
At this point, if we're going to keep insisting on portraying dinosaurs as featherless because it's "cooler", it's time to apply that same logic to art involving bald eagles.
Title text: At this point, if we're going to keep insisting on portraying dinosaurs as featherless because it's "cooler", it's time to apply that same logic to art involving bald eagles.

Explanation

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The comic is set in the future, with two hovering robot 'beings' discussing ancient history, in particular the clothing styles of kings and queens of the now extinct human race. It appears that robot archeologists have unearthed the remains of human civilization, including something recently unearthed that presumably indicates the wearing of colorful clothing by human monarchs (most likely paintings).

When dinosaur bones were first dug up, the idea that dinosaurs were scaly, reptilian-like creatures was developed with the information available at the time. In recent times, it's been discovered that most dinosaurs actually had feathers (checking the bones carefully shows shafts where the feathers would have attached.)

As this runs counter to the widespread and long-held image of dinosaurs as these dramatic reptiles, the public has been reluctant to accept this new discovery, especially as the addition of feathers conjures up the image of a giant chicken. Had it been discovered that dinosaurs were in fact covered with 6" long razor tipped spikes, people may have accepted this immediately as it conforms to the stereotype of dinosaurs as killing machines. There have even been attempts to claim that the feathers did not exist.

In the same way, the new information on kings and queens being covered in fabric runs counter to the movie inspired image that the robot on the right had about humans, picturing them as being pink warriors and that they had a leader who could grow metal out of his or her head. This probably comes around because they have found the tombs of kings and queens with their crowns lying on top of their skulls. Then it would just look like another part of their skeleton, if they do not know enough about our anatomy. Since they themselves are made of metal (maybe by humans who created their original AI), it may be easy to accept that humans also were part metal.

Shown at least some evidence pointing to the truth - that humans did typically wear clothing, and that a monarch's crown is not part of his or her body, but just a symbol worn on top of the head - the robot is probably disappointed. Humans wearing clothing reduces them, in his opinion, to big silly pillows. Something made of cloth (or covered in it), at least in this robot's mind, cannot be a significant actor in history.

The robot fails to reason (insofar as a robot can reason) that, among other things, history was what it was, and its wanting things to have been a certain way does not make it so. In addition, just as the clothing-wearing human is more than a mere pillow, a feathered dinosaur is not necessarily merely a giant chicken.

The title text references our failure to change the popular image of dinosaurs to reflect the way they truthfully once were. Randall jokingly suggests that we should apply the same "featherless is cooler" logic to popular images of Bald Eagles (the name says they're bald!), and remove their feathers (only in depictions of them, presumably), leaving them bald and horrible-looking.

As this comic was released a few weeks before the release of a new Jurassic Park movie, Jurassic World, wherein the dinosaurs are still depicted without feathers, it seems likely that the robot comment on the more cool pink humans are targeted at this movie. Especially given Randall's many earlier references to Jurassic Park and his fear of Velociraptors.

The movie that the robot refers to is likely a contemporary movie, series, or genre of a type like the sword and sandal movies. Popular films from recent years that have this same look could be 300 and Troy. At least some of the movies that they refer to must include an (almost?) naked king with a crown on his head, or perhaps, like hair, even growing out of his head. These would have been produced by robots in relative ignorance or defiance of the actual events of the past.

Transcript

[Two robots are hovering in mid-air in the comic]
Robot 1: You know, new research suggests ancient human kings and queens were covered in colorful fabric.
Robot 2: Ugh, I like movie humans more. Screaming pink warriors with metal crowns poking through the skin on their heads!
Robot 2: Now they're, what, big pillows?
Robot 2: Science ruins everything.
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Discussion

Yes! Preach it, Randall! 188.114.106.23 08:23, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Everyone knows they're more akin to big cows, anyway. 141.101.106.143 09:33, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Big spherical cows. --Pudder (talk) 10:22, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Although most remaining "cows" are actually closer to oblate spheroids ... 108.162.210.252 19:56, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Robots complaining about science is like humans complaining about evolution. 108.162.231.60 09:49, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Great line :) --108.162.215.118 10:51, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Given the title text, the reference to movie humans makes this cartoon likely an oblique commentary on the upcoming film Jurassic World where the dinosaurs remain featherless. 108.162.237.162 10:54, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't really want to see a sequel criticized for maintaining continuity. Think of what it would be like if someone made a 2001 movie where instead of travelling to Jupiter, Hal orchestrated the invasion of Iraq. Wait a second, that would make for an awesome movie.--Dave108.162.237.183 13:36, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

LOL! :) KieferSkunk (talk) 23:22, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Personally, I wouldn't like being chased with Aepyornis either, and noone ever doubted Aepyornis had feathers. -- Hkmaly (talk) 11:45, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

I wonder which movie Robot #2 is referring to. Something with a crowned monarch and lots of (almost) naked warriors. 300 perhaps? Smperron (talk) 12:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure their talking about future films, we make films about prehistoric dinosaurs, so the robots make films about prehistoric humans(pre robot history) --141.101.99.24 13:36, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
except for the use of "their", I'm in complete agreement. I'm gonna make a few tweaks, accordingly - Brettpeirce (talk) 14:18, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Robot 2 isn't referring to a current movie, I think this is set roughly 65million years in the future. So i've removed the part about Troy and other sword and sandal films -- Zeimusu (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)
I assume it's more that skeletons and metal are much more likely to survive than clothes. Perhaps, they often see the crowns nearby the skulls in digs and assume that they were attached in life. 108.162.219.100 19:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Dinosaurs with feathers. Yawn. The idea is already tired. Dinosaurs with feathers cool? I just picture the T-Rex in Jurassic Park chasing the car to the tune of the Chicken Dance and it doesn't take me long to realise how cool feathered dinosaurs really are. 108.162.249.161 21:49, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

What's tired is the idea that dinosaurs evolved and developed in such a way for people to find cool millions of years later. Then again, lets see how tired you are when my cloned puffball T-rexes have chased you down! Hahaha! -Pennpenn 04:35, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

"covered with colorful fabric" - "big pillows" - Am I the only person who thinks the robots have discovered, and are taking as authoritative, a furniture store ad for king and queen size beds? 108.162.238.183 (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Could this also be reference to Stephen Hawking's recent comments about computers overtaking humans with AI ("Checkmate" - HAL)? 108.162.215.191 04:32, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Though it's almost certainly not a reference, this reminds me of the Futurama episode "Fear on a Bot Planet" (the one where they have to deliver something to a robot controlled planet where humans are thought of as highly destructive horror movie monsters). -Pennpenn 108.162.250.162 04:41, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking that "growing metal out of their head" is a Viking reference -- in the romantic depiction of a Warrior with a Helmet with horns Horned_helmet. Spongebog (talk) 06:05, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Could be, but I would assume he would have gone futher with it then, since that is another historically false idea. I am assuming he just referring to a future trend of depicting crowns as ingrown in kings heads. Carewolf (talk) 13:58, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
There is no reference to "horns" only to "crowns". The robots have assumed that humans fossilized with crowns are a distinct species, and the metal crown is part of the skeleton. I've removed explainations of "horns"Zeimusu (talk) 17:53, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Isn't it worth noting that dinosaurs in Jurassic Park are cloned, and their DNA is patched up with frog DNA? Michael Crichton also wrote about the dinosaurs not being exactly how they used to be in the books because of it. I would have thought it strange if the dinosaurs in Jurassic World looked different from how they did in Jurassic Park as they exists in the same continuity. They even mention the T-Rex has lived on the Island for more than 20 years. RavenLiquid (talk) 12:03, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

I wonder if, when they eventually do a full reboot of the franchise, they'll say they patched up the dinosaurs with bird DNA, since that kind of make more sense than frogs. I mean, as much sense as any of it makes. -Pennpenn 108.162.250.162 23:52, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
The frog DNA was a huge plot point (at least in the books) as all dinosaurs were female (to control the population), and frogs can change sex if the environment has to much of either sex. So the dinosaurs got this trait from the frogs and were reproducing (the famous life finds a way quote).RavenLiquid (talk) 10:07, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

This might sound weird, but it reminds me of that Spongebob episode where at the end, some floating creatures, taking pictures with their tongue, visit Jellyhenge or something. The Twenty-second. The Not So Only. The Nathan/Nk22 (talk) 18:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Usually I would say I understand xckd just by reading it. But this one puzzled me enough to look up what an "explain xkcd" had to say. I actually thought the Kings and Queens being "big pillows" remark referred to use of the words for mattress sizes (as well as possibly the colorful fabric being sheets or comforters). But since the comic is about misunderstandings over long periods of time, it may be deliberately confusing. 108.162.210.117 05:28, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm guessing there's nothing genius about this. Randall thought "I'll recreate the dinosaur feathers reaction but in the future with humans instead of dinosaurs" and then something popped into his mind about those prehistoric movies from the 60s with mostly naked people or 300 or something and he threw the word movie in. It didn't really make sense, it wasn't really funny, but he just published it anyway. - 173.245.48.189 14:02, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

The post claims that Jurassic World is a reboot of the franchise, but that isn't strictly true. There is some retconning of some events to allow for the events to believably fit into the continuity of the previous films, but the overall plot is unchanged. 173.245.52.189

"Now they're, what, big pillows?"; I took this to mean that rather than humans being extinct in this comic, it takes place in a future where obesity is common, no humans work. So if humans are just fat and sit around all day, that would explain the pillow comparison. Maybe?  -173.245.52.118 04:13, 2 June 2015 (UTC)