2144: Adjusting a Chair

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Adjusting a Chair
When I was looking at the box, I should have thought more about what "360 degrees of freedom" meant.
Title text: When I was looking at the box, I should have thought more about what "360 degrees of freedom" meant.


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This comic shows Cueball's attempts to adjust a swivelling chair. As many people have experienced, these chairs can be quite difficult to raise, lower, or manoeuvre if one does not know how. This comically culminates in a massive chair with a big central seat and several other chairs branching off of it as Cueball continues trying to adjust it.

Each step gets farther away from what real-life office chairs could do. In sequence, Cueball finds his chair:

  1. Being able to recline the seat back. Many chairs do have this ability, which one can use for sitting comfort or perhaps to take a nap.
  2. Being able to raise or lower the seat. Most chairs have this ability, but the comic departs from real chairs in two ways. First, it's much higher than any real chair. Second, he can raise the height while sitting on it; under normal design, pressing the raise/lower lever while sitting on the chair is how one lowers the seat, using one's own weight to depress the spring or hydraulic piston.
  3. Being able to have the seat inflate. Although this could be useful (e.g. to help people who need to use extra seat cushions because of hemorrhoids or coccyx injury), it is not a typical office chair capability. However, in addition to simply inflating, Cueball's chair appears to actually make the seat longer and wider. This doesn't seem to have a lot of useful application in office chairs.
  4. Putting out branches and growing extra seats and backs. Chairs definitely cannot do this in real life [citation needed] and use cases are doubtful.

The title text refers to a common claim on such chairs, that the chair offers 360 degrees rotation and several degrees of freedom. This is a double entendre depending on if "360 degrees" or "360" is interpreted as an object. However, here it means there are 360 mechanical degrees of freedom, which is the number of independent parameters that define the configuration of an object; in other words, the chair has 360 different levers and options.


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[Cueball is shown adjusting a chair.]
Caption: Adjusting a chair:
[Cueball presses a button on the bottom of his chair.]
Chair: CLUNK
[The seat back of the chair swings backward.]
[Cueball presses another button.]
Chair: HISS
[The chair extends to several times its previous height.]
[Another button]
Chair: POOF
[The seat has expanded greatly.]
Caption: Two hours later:
[Cueball attempts to press yet another button on his now-massive chair. It now has 5 bases, two full chairs branching from underneath the seat, two poles coming up from the seat, each with a new seat and two back-to-back seat backs. Yet another seat is supported by a thin rod connecting the two top seats.]
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I believe "degrees of freedom" is referring to the how the term is used in scientific theories, where degrees of freedom refers to how many variables exist in the theory to "tune" its predictions. A theory with many degrees of freedom is less constrained in what it can predict, like with the Big Bang theory of cosmology. Ianrbibtitlht (talk) 15:22, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

I stand by my definition on mechanical degrees of freedom, aka axes of rotation/extension/motion. That's right, Jacky720 just signed this (talk | contribs) 19:52, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
That's definitely the correct meaning for this. See Degrees of freedom (mechanics) and Six degrees of freedom. And maybe specifically number of degrees of freedom on robotic arms (which tends to be number between 3 and 14). -- Hkmaly (talk) 21:08, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

This feels like it would have been a good concept for an April Fools comic if it were made to be interactive 16:57, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

So, English question, somebody corrected the explanation on this. Is it "maneuver" or "manoeuvre"? I think it's a matter of British or American English, and I'm not sure what the wiki prefers. That's right, Jacky720 just signed this (talk | contribs) 19:52, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Clearly this chair is one of the products that Beret Guy's Business sells. 23:15, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

I was more surprised it was not Beret Guy producing this last chair. It would have been something that was possible for him to do with any old office chair. --Kynde (talk) 12:26, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Isn't the "Two hours later" caption a reference to SpongeBob?

I'd say these type of time passing descriptions are more or less the same age as comic books. I didn't even know this is a meme, now... Example in the fourth panel at 2:44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSKp8cjpEUo ;) Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 07:33, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I'd say it's not any more a reference to spongebob than to every other play, comic book, movie, tv series, or novel that skips over a time period in that way. PotatoGod (talk) 20:12, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes that is not a specific reference. It is a reference to time passing... As old as time itself ;-) --Kynde (talk) 12:26, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Just checked and Randall already used it back in 309: Shopping Teams in 2007. --Kynde (talk) 12:33, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

But can it do this? 13:07, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

The chair in the last panel looks like something a GAN (generative adversarial neural network) would come up with. It has lots of very chair-ish parts, so it must be a chair, right? Aaron Rotenberg (talk) 15:13, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

The chair in the last panel also looks like one large chair made up of normal-ish size chair parts. Tait marconi (talk) 19:42, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Hmm yes as seen from the front maybe? --Kynde (talk) 12:26, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

There's those school lunch tables - Google will show you - that fold away, and that have rows of seats built-in to the mechanism, so that all the seats are deployed as you open out the table. Robert Carnegie, gml. rja.carnegie. 08:15, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

I think I fought one of these chairs in Undertale 14:29, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

My office chair likes to randomly pop up on its own when I stand up. More often than not, the backrest cushion ends up smashing into the table behind me. These Are Not The Comments You Are Looking For (talk) 04:42, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

The last picture looks like a reference to discworld, the elephants on a turtle supporting the world.