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In similar spirit to 538: Security this comic deals with how many people perceive hacking and security best practices. Specifically, the comic points out the flaw in the argument of some security minded people that writing passwords down on a sheet of paper is a massive security vulnerability, not accounting for the threat model of the general public: reused passwords being leaked from seemingly benign places.
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any idea what the title text is referring to? some smash mouth lyrics, maybe? -- //gir.st/ (talk) 13:48, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- The first line of their most popular song, All Star, is "Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me". 188.8.131.52 13:55, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- welp, i could have figured that out! to my defense, ducking "roll them like this" only brought up the comic itself. Thanks! -- //gir.st/ (talk) 14:06, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- I think Randall is referring to this https://xkcd.com/792/ with himself is the "someone" who warned them. 184.108.40.206 14:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- I doubt that the title text was a reference to this comic, but I've linked to it in the section about the second panel. Thanks! -- //gir.st/ (talk) 14:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
I always (not really) thought hacking was more like "My latest scan of the internet found a computer that hasn't updated it's OS or it's antivirus in two months!" "Score! Hack in and steal their money!" 220.127.116.11 14:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)SiliconWolf
- Usually, the scan immediately installs some virus. Noone is going to manually hacks thousands of machines. -- Hkmaly (talk) 22:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Note that you can sort of get the best of both words if, instead of using just common password or just password written on paper, you use password combined from those two. Online hackers wouldn't be able to hack your other accounts because all accounts have different password, while family members wouldn't be able to hack anything because they wouldn't know the common prefix to those passwords written on paper. -- Hkmaly (talk) 22:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Nah... I just need to 1) obtain a list of leaked passwords, 2) break into your pad/cubicle to obtain your dead-tree-list of partial passwords, 3) successfully identify the fully expanded one in the former that is the superset of the appropriate partial in the latter, 4) thusly derive the likely transformation you used, 5) apply that to all the other partials to easily h4ck 4ll ov UR 07|-|3|2 |_°9!|\|5 !!!111!!11oneoneone ...6) Profit? 18.104.22.168 00:09, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Or just drug you and beat you with a wrench until you give up the passwords 22.214.171.124 13:59, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm disappointed that the template at the top want authored by "The Sharpest Tool in the Shed." Mootstrap (talk) 02:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Anyone has idea why Randall keeps ignoring existence of password managers? 126.96.36.199 07:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Because some people don’t use them? 188.8.131.52 07:31, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
I have to say, I'm not aware of anyone who thinks hacking is as Randall describes. I would have thought that most people would mistakenly think hacking is about typing complex green code onto a screen until a message pops up saying "ACCESS GRANTED". Hawthorn (talk) 12:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Well, some people put a lot of emphasis of never to write a password down, to prevent insider attacks. This leads to people reusing passwords, which leads to the much bigger risk as displayed here. So this comic is in line with 936: Password Strength to keep superstition out of password policies and the attached mindsets of users. (Especially the combination of using long complex passwords, as in 936, and to never write them down would lead people to reuse them a lot.). Randall here mocks, that insider threats are only a threat with insiders (family, friends, coworkers, etc. unless you work (or use your device) in a public place, while the much bigger threat for everyone is anonymous hackers going for quantity. --Lupo (talk) 13:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
I have removed the claim that "Most crimes are committed by people known to their victims, [...]". This might be true for crimes committed in the real world, but I doubt that's true for "cybercrimes" (Urgh. That term!). Please do re-add it if you have a credible source for it! ;-) 184.108.40.206 16:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
There are Smash Mouth message boards? Youforgotthisthing (talk) 16:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
First panel: Where's the fourth Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle??220.127.116.11 11:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- He's picking up pizza for the crew! Ianrbibtitlht (talk) 12:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)