326: Effect an Effect

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Effect an Effect

Title text: Time to paint another grammarian silhouette on the side of the desktop.

Explanation

Affect is usually used to mean "to influence". Effect is usually used to mean "an influence". Affect is a verb while effect is a noun. However, in this instance the word "effect" is used to mean its second definition: to have the power to influence. The grammar nazi doesn't realize that Cueball is using the second definition, and he changes it to the verb "affect".

Both "effect" and "affect" would make the sentence grammatically correct, although the meaning would differ.

Transcript

Narrator: MY HOBBY:

Using the more obscure meanings of "affect" and "effect" to try to trip up amateur grammar nazis.

Cueball: I think that our foreign policy effects the situation.

Computer [types]: You mean "affects".

Cueball: tee hee hee

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Discussion

Can someone explain the title text, thanks! –St.nerol (talk) 14:20, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd like to see that get added as well. I kind of assumed it was like taking a kill-count; one painting for each victim. I'm not sure what it specifically refers to, or what the origin of the term is. 76.106.251.87 05:55, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

seen the silhouette images of enemy planes painted next to the pilots canopy on mid 20th century fighter planes? its a reference to that. i've only seen it in films but presumably where there's smoke there's fire. *edit for improved explanation: the images are painted by the pilot to show how many 'bogies' he's shot down,much like how cueball will paint the grammarian on his desktop as another victim. Xseo (talk) 10:02, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

"mid 20th century fighter planes"?? As opposed to what? Late 18th century fighter planes?86.44.215.73 02:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

As opposed to late 20th and 21st century fighter planes perhaps? St.nerol (talk) 08:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

And assuming "mid 20th century" refers to World War II of 1939-45 (less years for Americans, arguably more so for some other countries), there were already gun-attached 'fighter aircraft' in WWI and onward (though often technically called "scouts" or "pursuit" aircraft, in English and American terminology, respectively... other countries/languages having their own varients). Maybe not from the very start of the 1914-18 conflict, as opposing aircrews were apparently quite friendly to each other for a while until some air-reconnaissance pilot took a pistol up with him (or perhaps it was originally a solution against airships, leastwise those that they could get high enough to attack). And then some people had the idea to hard-attach various projectile weapons to the planes. And, oh boy, they had fun for a while trying to mount them to fire through their own front propellers, didn't they? ;)

Anyway, the concept definitely had become engrained before the 'mid' 20thC, by whatever name. Did the Red Baron paint kills on his triplane? Did Biggles (fictionally) do so? Someone ought to actually research this. ;) 178.98.31.27 16:27, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

At least in his autobiography "Der rote Kampfflieger" (The red Fighter pilot) Manfred von Richthofen (the actual name of the Red Baron) did not tell about that. And he did not mention any other pilot doing so, either. But since he considered being a fighter pilot as a sport such as hunting and he was very proud of his "score" it is most likely he would have telled if there were such a rite, I guess. As such I would consider "mid 20th century" as correct, since most if not all actual evidences of that tradition I am aware of are from WWII or later. Unfortunately I did not found any information about the origin of that tradition. The only wikipedia entry is the German article about "Abschussmarkierung" which has no links to translations of other languages and does not contain any information about the origin and searching for "kill marks" or "kill scores" leads to nothing but hobbyist forums or World of Tanks/World of Warplanes (both being more or less WWII games) and similar. Maybe I do some more research on this, later. Elektrizikekswerk (talk) 15:48, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Effects effecting affects affect effects effectively. Also, Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. --naginalf 108.162.216.40 20:29, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Wouldn’t the sentence “I want to put a hyphen between the words Fish and and and and and Chips in my Fish-and-Chips sign” have been clearer if quotation marks had been placed before Fish, and between Fish and and, and and and and, and and and and, and and and and, and and and and, and and and Chips, as well as after Chips? 172.68.141.14 19:54, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Sure, but really, if an effect can effect affects effectively, how many affects can an effect effectively effect? Brettpeirce (talk) 14:46, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

As many affects as an effect can effect if an effect can effect affects effectively. 108.162.238.162 04:09, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

What that is that that is is that that is what that is, I guess. 173.245.56.174 19:42, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I was in a meeting once where a guy said, "I am effected by my environment." I replied, "Oh? We think, therefore you are?" Nobody laughed. Sigh. -- CoderLass (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Can someone simplify the meaning / alternative words for the two variants and verb/noun uses in a spreadsheet? --Björn Eberhardt 14:50, 3 June 2015 (CEST)

You shouldn't need a spreadsheet, since it's only a 2x2 matrix, meaning just 4 meanings. Briefly:

• Effect (noun): result
• Effect (verb): cause
• Affect (noun): visible sign of mood
• Affect (verb): change

There are additional meanings for all of these, but they're generally related to the main meaning in obvious ways. 162.158.255.69 07:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Bjorn- if you find anyone to do that, I'm getting it as a tattoo. Gwynfshae (talk) 15:01, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

The spelling of "foreign" was corrected several hours after it was posted, according to the XKCD blog. Anyone know how it was initially spelled? 162.158.255.148 23:34, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

"Foriegn". (The 'e' and 'i' are transposed.) Here's a Wayback Machine link.

I imagine someone's gonna want this. 172.70.230.157 06:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Does the plane-painting thing actually ever happen? I have heard people say the practice exited from well before WWII, but in almost every case both before and after I think it’s an urban legend. 108.162.214.137 17:03, 22 April 2016 (UTC)