Talk:1704: Gnome Ann

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The lotr reference is about the Witch King of Angmar instead of Sauron Source: 05:05, 8 July 2016 (UTC)Dege

I'm surprised there's no reference to Polyphemus from Homer's Odyssey. Or is there one that I haven't seen? 08:00, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

I saw the first panel, and honestly thought the pun was between Gnome Ann and the gnomon of a sundial. The rest made pretty clear of what's up, though.

Exactly! 15:34, 9 July 2016 (UTC) 10:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Between the trenches: Gnome Ann's land. 11:29, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Great comic. I really like this one. The idea is old but is put into new perspective with the drawings. Guess this can be made in different languages. Have seen one in Danish where a person was named Ingens = no one. So if something was owned by no one it was his... Must admit I did not get it until the Star Trek reference but I'm not native English and had to try it out to hear the no man in gnome ann where I would also pronounce the g hard although not for the reason mentioned in the explanation but because the Danish word Gnom is pronounced like that and not like nome. We need a Star Trek category I would say! --Kynde (talk) 14:26, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Done! --Kynde (talk) 15:42, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

It might still be considered a 'literary quotation' but, strictly speaking, the line "I am no man" is from the movie. The original dialogue in the book isn't quite that simple, and the "Gnome Ann" joke probably wouldn't work. 14:28, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Given that it depicts the scene from the movie that is a perfect quote for this comic. --Kynde (talk) 15:42, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Language Log has more of these. .42 (talk) 15:34, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Gnome Ann is an island. -- 16:39, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

I could not resist. greptalk18:31, 08 July 2016 (UTC)

Do you think Gnome Ann does double crit damage? She is no man, and she is Gnome Ann. (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Re: The last paragraph of the explanation, is this false splitting, which seems to involve historical changes in words by dividing in the wrong place, or is this a mondegreen? The example which came first to mind is Jimi Hendrix, from Purple Haze : "Excuse me while I kiss (this guy / the sky)." I'm not nearly enough of a grammarian to be sure about the distinction. Miamiclay (talk) 02:25, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

It is a mondegreen, but there definitely is a false splitting there also: "the sky" becomes "this guy", the 's' migrates from the latter word to the former. (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

"Gnome Ann mistakenly thinks that 'no man' is actually a reference to her own name." Citation needed. I see no reason to think that she is mistaken about anything. She's not a man; she's not even human. 08:47, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Gnome Ann threatens a messenger. (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

These comments above belong in Gnome Ann's land :-D --Kynde (talk) 20:53, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

"Our Mission: To boldly go where Gnome Ann has gone before." Maybe the dangerous part is Gnome Ann still lurking around? 08:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Could this also be about Randall's gripe with English orthography? 11:33, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

What is up with that trigger warning? It doesn't seem misogynist to me.

I would suppose that they feel that giving women more ability (such as killing an unkillable demon, controlling time and tides, someone who goes after the wicked, has explored the galaxy, etc.) makes them less of a woman. I would then suppose that they neither wish women nor men to be in any way above each other, and that they should be fully equal. Generally throughout history there have been heroes from many walks of like, which today appears to upset people. Sometimes, when one is in a greater position of power there can be much more burden placed on them and as such freedoms may be lost because there may be a desire to keep specific standards or a lack of privacy. 16:44, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
This comic is offensive to some people as it comes across as sick male power fantasy and the whole point of the comic is to poke fun at a woman just because of her name. This comic would not work if it was a guy's name, but it's perfectly OK for you to make fun of women. Ha ha ha, how funny. You're sick.
Quite the opposite of misogyny, but I actually read this as Randall poking fun at the gender bias in the phrase 'no man'. I thought it was mostly intended as ironic, especially since in the last panel: ``no man can kill me - - but Gnome Ann can, because she's a woman. 17:55, 10 July 2016 (UTC)