3281: Antiques Roadshow
| Antiques Roadshow |
Title text: The family lore was that we've had it ever since it was ejected from a star-forming gas cloud, but it seems more likely that my great-grandparents probably just bought it while on vacation in the galactic thin disk. |
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This comic purports to be a scene from the TV show Antiques Roadshow, a BBC and PBS series in which members of the public can have antiques assessed and valued by experts. There are two common outcomes of the valuation: the item is a genuine antique of surprisingly high value, or the item is a modern replica and of a disappointingly low value. This comic shows the unusual scenario of Cueball having a star appraised — an item that doesn't normally get valued on the show and would not normally fit on a table of that size.[citation needed]
Stars are normally giant balls of stellar plasma that survive for billions of years (in this sense they would qualify as "antiques"); in typical xkcd fashion, some magical realism has made the stars tiny enough to be owned by people. After meeting the Roadshow experts, Cueball learns his star is not, as he had hoped, an old population III star, but a more recent population I star, as revealed by its iron content. Younger stars tend to have higher levels of iron, while older population III stars are composed almost entirely of hydrogen and helium. Cueball's comment "at least it has sentimental value" is similar to things people on the show say after learning that their "antique" is in fact a modern, low-value replica.
In cosmology, stellar population groups stars into three broad categories based on their chemical composition, which is correlated with when the stars formed during the history of the universe. Population III stars, which were the first stars to form after the Big Bang, have never been directly observed. It is thought that they were very large, and formed out of gas that contained no heavy elements such as iron. As they were large, they burned their fuel rapidly and exploded in supernovae, seeding the universe with the first elements heavier than hydrogen and helium. The direct observation of a population III star would be a major result in astronomy, and hence very valuable in scientific terms. A low-mass population III star in particular (as Cueball thought his star was) would be especially interesting, as these would be rarer in population III than they are in population I. Although in the local universe, these are the only population III stars that could be observed, as the larger ones have much shorter lifespans. Population I stars are much more common; all the stars visible in the sky, including the Sun, are population I stars. Despite being cosmologically later in evolution, these stars can be billions of years old, older than any object assessed by the Roadshow.
The title text about "family lore" echoes other things that happen in Antiques Roadshow, with people who are having items assessed often having family stories about the items. The "star-forming gas cloud" refers to clouds of gas and dust called molecular clouds that are the common birthplaces of stars. Stars can get ejected from them via a gravitational slingshot from other star(s). The "galactic thin disk" is a part of a spiral galaxy that contains most of the galaxy's stars.
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- [Ponytail and Cueball are standing on opposite sides of a small table. On the table is a small stand, and floating above it is a tiny, glowing star, floating a couple of centimeters above. Ponytail is pointing to the star. At the bottom left is the logo of the US version of Antiques Roadshow: a treasure chest with the top partly open and the initials "AR" on the front. Extending from that to the right is a ribbon saying "Antiques Roadshow".]
- Ponytail: Now, your grandmother said this was a relic low-mass population III star, from the first generation of stars.
- Ponytail: Unfortunately, the high iron content shows that it formed much later, after several rounds of supernovas.
- Ponytail: I'm afraid it's a population I star.
- Cueball: Aw, darn.
- Cueball: Well, it still has sentimental value.
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Seems more suited to Beret Guy than Cueball? 47.248.235.170 21:30, 5 August 2026 (UTC)Pat
- Agreed, this feels more like a beret guy move. However, if this were to be one of his comics, the star in question would do something really weird. Radish (talk) 22:05, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
Is Antiques Roadshow a thing in the USA? I thought it was just a BBC show.92.238.26.192 21:42, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
- I think it's shown on BBC America, or whichever streaming service shows BBC content these days; certainly, my US-ian neighbo(u)rs are familiar with it. 50.45.232.78 22:07, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
- It's definitely on in the US, too, on PBS, with American locales and appraisers. Wikipedia says the US version is based on the UK version. 47.248.235.170 22:14, 5 August 2026 (UTC)Pat
- I'm pretty sure the logo at the bottom of the comic is from the PBS version. Barmar (talk) 23:17, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
- While not directly related or franchised, the Japanese TV program Kaiun! Nandemo Kanteidan (link on Japanese Wikipedia) is very similar in formula to Antiques Roadshow. HaruruChanDesu (talk) 00:51, 6 August 2026 (UTC)
- Similarly, German television has Bares für Rares; this format appears to be quite common! – Kleinesfilmröllchen (talk) 12:47, 6 August 2026 (UTC)
- While not directly related or franchised, the Japanese TV program Kaiun! Nandemo Kanteidan (link on Japanese Wikipedia) is very similar in formula to Antiques Roadshow. HaruruChanDesu (talk) 00:51, 6 August 2026 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure the logo at the bottom of the comic is from the PBS version. Barmar (talk) 23:17, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
- It's definitely on in the US, too, on PBS, with American locales and appraisers. Wikipedia says the US version is based on the UK version. 47.248.235.170 22:14, 5 August 2026 (UTC)Pat
It is just a nitpick, but Population III stars would be born from clouds that are only gas, with no dust in them. The dust is made up of heavier elements than Hydrogen and Helium, and there were no such heavier elements available, since those only form inside stars. And before there were stars there were no stars to produce dusty material. 2A02:A46A:ABEC:0:D0A8:AC46:794A:26F1 07:02, 6 August 2026 (UTC)
"The sun regularly appears on the Antiques Roadshow, due to being filmed outside during the day." - Now this is the kind of pedantic nitpickery I can applaud. 82.13.184.33 11:31, 6 August 2026 (UTC)
Is the joke that his grandmother is so old that it became a Population I star by the time he got it? Fephisto (talk) 15:18, 6 August 2026 (UTC)
- Probably not, stars don't change population. The basis of each star population is the amount of heavy elements for it's age. Pop I stars are very light and have very little Iron content until the very end. Radish [citation needed] 18:06, 6 August 2026 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure the joke is just that families tend to have heirlooms where the family lore about the item is completely made up, or it's believed to be way older than it actually is. Think something like an old plate that family lore says was brought over from the Old Country by great-great-grandparents, but in reality, was just a plate in an older style that the grandparents bought at Sears in the 40s. 67.162.123.65 19:11, 7 August 2026 (UTC)
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