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:Cueball: Can you identify this rock that I found?
 
:Cueball: Can you identify this rock that I found?
:Megan: Not without knowing where you found it. It's difficult to identify minerals by sight without the geologic context.
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:Cueball: Can you identify this rock that I found wrapped in a $5 bill?
 
:Cueball: Can you identify this rock that I found wrapped in a $5 bill?
:Megan: Sure! Looks like garnets in a mica schist.
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Revision as of 22:34, 26 March 2025

Rock Identification
'Is it worth anything?' 'I dunno, is the answer to that question worth another $5?'
Title text: 'Is it worth anything?' 'I dunno, is the answer to that question worth another $5?'

Explanation

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It is somewhat hard to identify rocks without knowing where they're from, but Randall insinuates that this is just a lie geologists insinuate to obtain free money from curious people looking to identify rocks and assures that the best way to get rocks identified is to pay the geologist you ask.

This subverts the expected "correct" way to ask the question, which in these sorts of tips is often made by asking a slightly different question that gives a reason for the person who knows the information to become interested, rather than feel like they are being asked to do work for you. Examples of expected ways to get the information might be to ask premptively, "Can you tell me where this rock came from?". Or, to draw their attention by being intentionally wrong, i.e. "Why is this granite red?"

Alternate Explanation: garnets in mica schists actually grow in $5 bill environments. That was sufficient geologic context.

Transcript

[Cueball is holding a small spotted rock] Cueball: Can you identify this rock I found?

Ponytail: Not without knowing where you found. It's difficult to identify minerals by sight without the geological context.

[Cueball is holding $5 bill under the same small spotted rock]

Cueball: Can you identify this rock I found wrapped in a $5 bill?

Ponytail: Sure! Looks like garnets in a mica schist.


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[Caption above the comic:]

how to ask geologists to identify a rock
[A two-paneled comic, one panel being labeled "wrong:" and the other being labeled "right:"]
[The panel labeled "wrong:"]
[Cueball holds out a rock to Ponytail]
Cueball: Can you identify this rock that I found?
Ponytail: Not without knowing where you found it. It's difficult to identify minerals by sight without the geologic context.
[The panel labeled "right:"]
[Cueball holds out a rock wrapped in a $5 bill to Ponytail]
Cueball: Can you identify this rock that I found wrapped in a $5 bill?
Ponytail: Sure! Looks like garnets in a mica schist.

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Discussion

I made a transcript New editor (talk) 21:03, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

It might also imply that the geologist doesn’t know but just wants the $5 so comes up with an answer 198.41.236.163 00:01, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I doubt they're lying about what rock it is since both mica schists and garnets are visually obvious and even more obvious if a scratch test is performed.172.69.186.157 04:36, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

The funny part is it works the other way round: you first identify minerals by sight (also Mohs scale and polarizing microscope), then conclude what the geologic context is. 172.71.232.25 11:01, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I think this random "it was wrapped in the bill, no idea where the money came from" also implies corruption and destroying the traces of the money, instead of just payment or tip. --Lupo (talk) 11:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunate missed chance to call this comic a “Geologist Tip” 172.70.176.56 13:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Surely the joke is that it only takes $5 to bribe a Geologist. 162.158.94.240 (talk) 15:45, 27 March 2025 (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Hey, if you want to pay me $5 to pay attention to you for a minute, I would take the deal. That's a great hourly rate! Though I guess my perspective might be skewed, since I'm not a professional scientist but just a (somewhat broke) grad studentDextrous Fred (talk) 17:38, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

wonder if the comic is referring to the (somewhat popular) whatisthisrock subreddit --172.68.210.176 19:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Whoever entered "If you're good at something, never do it for free" should be congratulated for doing quality voluntary work Kev (talk) 22:27, 27 March 2025 (UTC).

"the $5 bill would be covered with dirt and no longer be usable." - technically, as long as 50% or more of the bill is left, it's still legal tender. if it's less than 50% you can ask the US government to exchange it for intact money. --172.71.146.79 21:59, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

"Furthermore, if a rock was wrapped in paper and put in a hole in the ground, the $5 bill would be covered with dirt and no longer be usable." Citation needed. In addition to what the previous commenter said, dirt typically can be brushed off of things. NoriMori (talk) 01:50, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Ha! I asked this exact (well, paraphrased) question to geologist Eugene Shoemaker during a class field trip to the Grand Canyon. “What kind of rock is this?” He identified it as a carnelian agate, and said I hadn’t found it there unless some tourist had dropped it. Test passed, Professor. I took it back and put it back in my rock collection I’d brought to college with me. 162.158.167.15 02:08, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
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