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Period Speech
The same people who spend their weekends at the Blogger Reenactment Festivals will whine about the anachronisms in historical movies, but no one else will care.
Title text: The same people who spend their weekends at the Blogger Reenactment Festivals will whine about the anachronisms in historical movies, but no one else will care.


The actors on this stage are using language and technology from wildly differing time periods:

Put together, the exchange roughly translates to "Do you truly understand what I'm saying, my friends?"/"We understand!".) The characters also combine archaic weapons like a spear and a sword with a presumably modern handgun and a laptop, adding to the growing heap of anachronisms.

Randall's contention is that hundreds of years from now, people will make similar errors that we do today when depicting historical items and language. Modern movies, fiction and other forms of media that depict history often confuse terms, items and equipment that were in one place and time period and place them in another, but few people notice because to them, all of it fits under the very broad category of "old, historical things" - only those with an interest in history really notice or seem to care. Thus following this trend, in the future, things like laptop computers and "grok my jive" will seem just as historical and "old-timey" as a spear or the saying "Forsooth!", except to those who participate in such things like "Blogger Reenactment Festivals", as mentioned in the title text.

For instance, take a suit of full plate armor. To most people, plate armor is a "Medieval thing". So thus, when depicting King Arthur, a figure from 500 to 800 AD (if he even existed at all), one would (and has) put him in a suit of full plate because he is "medieval" and that is the stereotypical equipment of a Medieval figure. In actual fact, plate armor only came about after 1350, many centuries after King Arthur would have lived, and it coexisted alongside firearms for a very long time. King Arthur would have worn chainmail, but all of this would be lost on an average person watching a movie about King Arthur, to whom chainmail and full plate are interchangeable under the label of "historical armor" in their minds. It is not much of a jump from a span of 500 to 800 years of equipment being considered interchangeable to 1500 years of equipment and language being interchangeable.

The title text likely refers to 239: Blagofaire, which features the said "Blogger Reenactment Festivals".


[A sword-wielding Cueball on a stage addresses three others; one has a spear, another a handgun and a knife, and the third a laptop.]
Cueball: Forsooth, do you grok my jive, me hearties?
Actors: Ten-four!
A few centuries from now, all the English of the past 400 years will sound equally old-timey and interchangeable.

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Although "grok" might be a slang term used among programmers, its roots are somewhat older.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok , "Grok /ˈɡrɒk/ is a word coined by Robert A. Heinlein for his 1961 science-fiction novel, Stranger in a Strange Land,[...]" 11:55, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't want to live in a world where people need to determine who coined Grok by checking a reference. It's time for one of us to uninstall...life.— Kazvorpal (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Also, "Jive" shouldn't be taken to mean "bullshit" but "what I'm saying" or "How I'm speaking." 23:57, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Blogger Reenactment Faires? That's a pretty hilarious typo (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

This comic comes to mind particularly painfully with respect to the Joseph Ducreux image macros. ~~~~ (talk) (please sign your comments with ~~~~)

Rather too late to add, but I think that a plated 'King' Arthur is not good example of anachronism. One can easily make an argument that it's not a possible historical character that is represented, but actually the one from the Matière de Bretaigne with its many retellings all through the Mediæval and Early Modern periods. Most movies are re-retellings of those.Richardelguru (talk) 10:58, 5 April 2018 (UTC)howlandbolton.com

Here's an idea: How about comparing it to modern views and movies about the crusades? 20:20, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Another really late comment: I saw something in a rather silly comic which combines this idea with some time travelers doing a poor job trying to blend in: http://dresdencodak.com/2007/05/22/for-lack-of-a-better-term/ -- 23:49, 10 August 2020 (UTC)