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â | + | {{comic | |
+ | | number = 1928 | ||
+ | | date = December 13, 2017 | ||
+ | | title = Seven Years | ||
+ | | image = seven_years.png | ||
+ | | titletext = [hair in face] "SEVVVENNN YEEEARRRSSS" | ||
+ | }} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Explanation== | ||
+ | [[Randall]]'s then girlfriend, now wife, was diagnosed with cancer in late 2010, a matter he has discussed in the comic [[:Category:Cancer|multiple times before]]. Here, motivated by the seven-year period between the American solar eclipses of {{w|Solar eclipse of August 21, 2017|2017}} and {{w|Solar eclipse of April 8, 2024|2024}}, we see them reminiscing the seven years prior to the first eclipse, leaving an open question to what the next seven years will bring. | ||
+ | |||
+ | This comic is part of a [[:Category:X Years|series of comics]] and directly continues [[1141: Two Years]], which is shown as the first eight panels, slightly grayed out. It later continued in [[2386: Ten Years]]. | ||
+ | |||
+ | It was released as a response to another cancer diagnosis, this is explained in the [[Design_of_xkcd.com#Header_text|Header text]], which, for [[Design of xkcd.com#Unique header text|this comic only]], has replaced the standard ''xkcd updates every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.'' The header for this comic, with the active link included, is: | ||
+ | :Becky Beaton, sister of fellow cartoonist Kate Beaton, has also been diagnosed with cancer. You can support her treatment [https://www.youcaring.com/beckybeaton-1008390 here]. | ||
+ | {{w|Kate Beaton}} is the creator of the web comic [http://www.harkavagrant.com/ Hark! A Vagrant]. Although this comic is not one on Randall's list of [[Design_of_xkcd.com#Comics_I_enjoy|Comics I enjoy]], he is clearly much influenced by another cancer diagnosis among someone in his own creative field. | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[Image:seven years key.png|right]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | Explanations of the individual panels: | ||
+ | |||
+ | *Panels 1â8: See [[1141: Two Years]], where there are also three more panels, not included here, with the punch line for that comic. | ||
+ | *Panel 9: Randall (drawn as [[Cueball]]) and Randall's wife (with her hair noticeably longer than it was at the end of [[1141: Two Years]], so she looks like [[Megan]]), are walking through a forest with very tall trees (maybe {{w|Sequoiadendron giganteum|giant redwood}}). The perspective is from a distant vantage point, and themes of extreme longevity are mixed with new growth: The old trees are so tall they grow out of the frame, yet saplings are clearly growing as well. Importantly, they are literally "not out of the woods yet," the very question that was posed to them at the start of [[931: Lanes]]. | ||
+ | *Panel 10: Randall's wife is sitting down, not in the forest anymore. She is concerned because she has pain in her toe and worries that this is an early sign of her cancer spreading again. Randall points out the simpler explanation- that she stubbed her toe the previous day, and the pain is likely a result of that. This panel shows the paranoia that comes from cancer remission, as earlier explained in [[931: Lanes]]. | ||
+ | *Panel 11: Randall and his wife are going spelunking (aka {{w|caving}}). Their guide, [[Hairy]], is gesturing deeper into the cave while Randall and his wife are climbing down. It is the first of three frames that contrast darkness and light, and two frames center on exploring a dark underworld. | ||
+ | *Panel 12: Randall's wife stands on a rock above an alligator in a swamp, photographing the alligator. Randall, on a balcony behind safety railings, observes that medical predictions about the odds of someone surviving cancer generally assume that the cancer patient doesn't risk something ''else'' killing them first. In this case her extreme hobbies (not related to [[:Category:My Hobby|Randall's hobbies]]). | ||
+ | *Panel 13: Randall's wife sits on an examination bed, listening to a doctor [[Ponytail]] holding a clipboard. The doctor talks about an issue which is "probably nothing" but ''might'' be the cancer â again showing the paranoia that comes with cancer. Ponytail tells her not to worry about until they have the result of a full scan she will order for her. This could be a full body {{w|Positron emission tomography|PET scan}} to ensure there are no active {{w|lymph node|lymph nodes}}. If there are this could be caused by {{w|metastasis}} of the cancer to the {{w|lymphatic system}}, which could be difficult to cure. In the first comic we see that it is very difficult to wait for the reply of such a scan. | ||
+ | *Panel 14: Randall and his wife stand above a deep pond full of fish and other objects. Randall's wife is piloting a wired underwater camera with lights. Randall shared pictures of his [https://blog.xkcd.com/2010/11/05/submarines/ underwater ROV] before. If this panel can be taken as following directly after the previous, it could be concluded that after some years they have learned to go do something fun rather than sit and worry for a result that they cannot change and do not know when will arrive. That would be a positive take on the sequence. They are shown both literally and figuratively searching -- as in the cave -- in the dark unknown. In the same way the doctor in the previous frame was exploring his wife's body, searching for hard to find things at depth. | ||
+ | *Panel 15: Randall and his wife are standing next to each other. Randall's wife has shoulder-length hair covering most of her face, and observes that, despite the chemotherapy robbing her of most of her hair six years ago, it is now growing enough to obscure her face. "The little girl from ''The Ring''" refers to {{w|Sadako Yamamura}}, the antagonist of the {{w|Ring (novel series)|''Ring'' series}} by {{w|Koji Suzuki}}, and popularized in a {{w|The Ring (2002 film)|2002 movie}}. See the title text, | ||
+ | *Panel 16: A line of six people, Ponytail between two other [[:Category:Multiple Cueballs|Cueball-like]] characters as well as Randall and his wife, with [[Megan]] to the right, stand and watch the corona of the Sun during the totality of the {{w|Solar eclipse of August 21, 2017|total solar eclipse of 2017}}. This has already been mentioned in [[:Category:Total Solar Eclipse 2017|several comics]] earlier in 2017, where this {{w|solar eclipse}} passed over the entire continental USA. Thematically, all three dark frames (cave, pond, and eclipse) are without speech. In this dark frame, exploration is replaced with awe, and when light comes in the next frame, speech returns and, in the light of day, determination to move forward. | ||
+ | *Panel 17: The sky has been brightened, and the eclipse is over. As the eclipse is cool to see in person (as Randall made clear in [[1880: Eclipse Review]]), the onlookers are left with little more than exclamations of amazement, one of which comes from Randall's wife, which 7 years ago had not expected, or even thought that she would be here to watch it (or a bit earlier, had doubted that she would be!) | ||
+ | *Panel 18: Randall and his wife are walking together and holding hands. When his wife inquires about the next total eclipse, Randall replies that the next one is in seven years (2024), and asks whether they should go to see it. | ||
+ | *Panel 19: Still walking, Randall and his wife think together about a timeline. Seven years have passed since 2010, represented with a solid line from the past to 2017; seven years in the future will be 2024, represented with a dotted line into the future and surrounded by three question marks. This is reflective of Panel 6, where "next year" is not guaranteed to be a thing. | ||
+ | *Panel 20: The pair keeps walking, with his wife optimistically agreeing to this stating that she will do her best to accomplish this, and Randall states that they have a date! (His way of claiming her to still be there in seven years!) His affirmation of something so simple as a "date" highlights the contrast to the natural awe of an eclipse or the staggering diagnosis of cancer, and it simultaneously elevates the event to a much higher accomplishment. | ||
+ | |||
+ | The title text is a continuation to panel 15 concerning the horror movie ''The Ring''. Specifically, watching the videotape in ''The Ring'' is supposed to kill a person in seven days, but the title text instead says "seven years". | ||
+ | |||
+ | With all these thoughts in mind, there is no wonder that he wishes to participate in helping a colleague's cancer-stricken sister with the [[xkcd Header text#Changes to the header text|unique header text]] above this comic, as mentioned above. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Transcript== | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[The first eight panels, used earlier in the comic [[1141: Two Years]], are faded out.] | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and Randall's fiancée sit on a bed, Randall's fiancée is talking on the phone. The person she is talking to, a doctor holding a clipboard, is shown inset.] | ||
+ | :Randall's fiancée: Oh god. | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and Randall's fiancée sit together while Randall's fiancée, now bald, is receiving chemotherapy. They are both on their laptops.] | ||
+ | :IV pump: ... Beeep ... Beeep ... Beeep ... | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and Randall's fiancée (who is wearing a knit cap) are paddling a kayak against a scenic mountain backdrop.] | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and Randall's fiancée sit at a table, staring at a cell phone. There is a clock on the wall. Her head is stubbly.] | ||
+ | :Randall's fiancée: How long can it take to read a scan!? | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and Randall's fiancée are back at the hospital again, Randall's fiancée receiving chemo. They are playing Scrabble.] | ||
+ | :Randall: "Zarg" isn't a word. | ||
+ | :Randall's fiancée: But ''caaaancer.'' | ||
+ | :Randall: ...Ok, fine. | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and Randall's fiancée (wearing a knit cap) are listening to a Cueball-like friend. A large thought bubble is above their heads and it obscures the friends talk. The text below, split in three is the only part there can be no doubt about:] | ||
+ | :Friend: So next year you should come visit us up in the mounta | ||
+ | ::a | ||
+ | ::and | ||
+ | :Randall and Randall's fiancée (thinking): '''"Next year"''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and Randall's fiancée are getting married, with a heart above their heads. Randall's wife's hair is growing back.] | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and Randall's wife (wearing a knit cap) stand on a beach, watching a whale jump out of water. This is the last gray panel, with an additional label in normal black color.] | ||
+ | :''Fwoosh'' | ||
+ | :Label: Two years | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and Randall's wife (with her hair noticably longer) are walking through a forest.] | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall's wife is sitting down, not in the forest anymore.] | ||
+ | :Randall's wife: My toe hurts and I found a report of a case in which toe pain was an early sign of cancer spreading. | ||
+ | :Randall: Waitâdidnât you stub your toe yesterday? | ||
+ | :Randall's wife: Yes, but what if this is unrelated? | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and his wife are going spelunking. The guide is gesturing deeper into the cave while Randall and his wife are climbing down.] | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall's wife stands on a rock above an alligator in a swamp, photographing the alligator. Randall is on a balcony behind safety railings.] | ||
+ | :Randall: When they estimated your survival odds, I think they made some optimistic assumptions about your hobbies. | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall's wife sits on an examination bed, listening to a doctor holding a clipboard.] | ||
+ | :Doctor: This is probably nothing. | ||
+ | :Doctor: But given your history, we should do a full scan. | ||
+ | :Doctor: We'll call with the results in a few days. Try not to worry about it until then! | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and his wife stand above a deep pond full of fish and other objects. Randall's wife is piloting a wired underwater camera with lights.] | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and his wife are standing next to each other. Randall's wife has shoulder-length hair covering most of her face.] | ||
+ | :Randall's wife: Hard to believeâsix years ago, I was bald. But today, after a long struggle, I finally look like the little girl from ''The Ring''. | ||
+ | :Randall: That's, uhh... good? | ||
+ | :Randall's wife: ''Hissssss'' | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[A line of six people, including Randall and his wife, stand and watch the solar eclipse.] | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[The sky has been brightened.] | ||
+ | :Ponytail: ''Wow.'' | ||
+ | :Randall's wife: Yeah. | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Randall and his wife are walking together and holding hands.] | ||
+ | :Randall's wife: That was incredible. | ||
+ | :Randall's wife: When's the next one? | ||
+ | :Randall: In seven years. | ||
+ | :Randall: Wanna go see it? | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[Still walking, Randall and his wife think together about a timeline. Seven years have passed since 2010, represented with a solid line from the past to 2017; seven years in the future will be 2024, represented with a dotted line into the future and surrounded by three question marks.] | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[The pair keeps walking.] | ||
+ | :Randall's wife: Yeah. | ||
+ | :Randall's wife: I'll do my best. | ||
+ | :Randall: It's a date! | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{comic discussion}} | ||
+ | |||
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+ | [[Category:Comics featuring Randall Munroe]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Comics featuring real people]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Comics featuring Hairy]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Comics featuring Ponytail]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Comics featuring Cueball]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Comics featuring Megan]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Multiple Cueballs]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Cancer]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Romance]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Total Solar Eclipse 2017]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Comics with inverted brightness]] |
Revision as of 18:44, 11 May 2022
Seven Years |
Title text: [hair in face] "SEVVVENNN YEEEARRRSSS" |
Explanation
Randall's then girlfriend, now wife, was diagnosed with cancer in late 2010, a matter he has discussed in the comic multiple times before. Here, motivated by the seven-year period between the American solar eclipses of 2017 and 2024, we see them reminiscing the seven years prior to the first eclipse, leaving an open question to what the next seven years will bring.
This comic is part of a series of comics and directly continues 1141: Two Years, which is shown as the first eight panels, slightly grayed out. It later continued in 2386: Ten Years.
It was released as a response to another cancer diagnosis, this is explained in the Header text, which, for this comic only, has replaced the standard xkcd updates every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. The header for this comic, with the active link included, is:
- Becky Beaton, sister of fellow cartoonist Kate Beaton, has also been diagnosed with cancer. You can support her treatment here.
Kate Beaton is the creator of the web comic Hark! A Vagrant. Although this comic is not one on Randall's list of Comics I enjoy, he is clearly much influenced by another cancer diagnosis among someone in his own creative field.
Explanations of the individual panels:
- Panels 1â8: See 1141: Two Years, where there are also three more panels, not included here, with the punch line for that comic.
- Panel 9: Randall (drawn as Cueball) and Randall's wife (with her hair noticeably longer than it was at the end of 1141: Two Years, so she looks like Megan), are walking through a forest with very tall trees (maybe giant redwood). The perspective is from a distant vantage point, and themes of extreme longevity are mixed with new growth: The old trees are so tall they grow out of the frame, yet saplings are clearly growing as well. Importantly, they are literally "not out of the woods yet," the very question that was posed to them at the start of 931: Lanes.
- Panel 10: Randall's wife is sitting down, not in the forest anymore. She is concerned because she has pain in her toe and worries that this is an early sign of her cancer spreading again. Randall points out the simpler explanation- that she stubbed her toe the previous day, and the pain is likely a result of that. This panel shows the paranoia that comes from cancer remission, as earlier explained in 931: Lanes.
- Panel 11: Randall and his wife are going spelunking (aka caving). Their guide, Hairy, is gesturing deeper into the cave while Randall and his wife are climbing down. It is the first of three frames that contrast darkness and light, and two frames center on exploring a dark underworld.
- Panel 12: Randall's wife stands on a rock above an alligator in a swamp, photographing the alligator. Randall, on a balcony behind safety railings, observes that medical predictions about the odds of someone surviving cancer generally assume that the cancer patient doesn't risk something else killing them first. In this case her extreme hobbies (not related to Randall's hobbies).
- Panel 13: Randall's wife sits on an examination bed, listening to a doctor Ponytail holding a clipboard. The doctor talks about an issue which is "probably nothing" but might be the cancer â again showing the paranoia that comes with cancer. Ponytail tells her not to worry about until they have the result of a full scan she will order for her. This could be a full body PET scan to ensure there are no active lymph nodes. If there are this could be caused by metastasis of the cancer to the lymphatic system, which could be difficult to cure. In the first comic we see that it is very difficult to wait for the reply of such a scan.
- Panel 14: Randall and his wife stand above a deep pond full of fish and other objects. Randall's wife is piloting a wired underwater camera with lights. Randall shared pictures of his underwater ROV before. If this panel can be taken as following directly after the previous, it could be concluded that after some years they have learned to go do something fun rather than sit and worry for a result that they cannot change and do not know when will arrive. That would be a positive take on the sequence. They are shown both literally and figuratively searching -- as in the cave -- in the dark unknown. In the same way the doctor in the previous frame was exploring his wife's body, searching for hard to find things at depth.
- Panel 15: Randall and his wife are standing next to each other. Randall's wife has shoulder-length hair covering most of her face, and observes that, despite the chemotherapy robbing her of most of her hair six years ago, it is now growing enough to obscure her face. "The little girl from The Ring" refers to Sadako Yamamura, the antagonist of the Ring series by Koji Suzuki, and popularized in a 2002 movie. See the title text,
- Panel 16: A line of six people, Ponytail between two other Cueball-like characters as well as Randall and his wife, with Megan to the right, stand and watch the corona of the Sun during the totality of the total solar eclipse of 2017. This has already been mentioned in several comics earlier in 2017, where this solar eclipse passed over the entire continental USA. Thematically, all three dark frames (cave, pond, and eclipse) are without speech. In this dark frame, exploration is replaced with awe, and when light comes in the next frame, speech returns and, in the light of day, determination to move forward.
- Panel 17: The sky has been brightened, and the eclipse is over. As the eclipse is cool to see in person (as Randall made clear in 1880: Eclipse Review), the onlookers are left with little more than exclamations of amazement, one of which comes from Randall's wife, which 7 years ago had not expected, or even thought that she would be here to watch it (or a bit earlier, had doubted that she would be!)
- Panel 18: Randall and his wife are walking together and holding hands. When his wife inquires about the next total eclipse, Randall replies that the next one is in seven years (2024), and asks whether they should go to see it.
- Panel 19: Still walking, Randall and his wife think together about a timeline. Seven years have passed since 2010, represented with a solid line from the past to 2017; seven years in the future will be 2024, represented with a dotted line into the future and surrounded by three question marks. This is reflective of Panel 6, where "next year" is not guaranteed to be a thing.
- Panel 20: The pair keeps walking, with his wife optimistically agreeing to this stating that she will do her best to accomplish this, and Randall states that they have a date! (His way of claiming her to still be there in seven years!) His affirmation of something so simple as a "date" highlights the contrast to the natural awe of an eclipse or the staggering diagnosis of cancer, and it simultaneously elevates the event to a much higher accomplishment.
The title text is a continuation to panel 15 concerning the horror movie The Ring. Specifically, watching the videotape in The Ring is supposed to kill a person in seven days, but the title text instead says "seven years".
With all these thoughts in mind, there is no wonder that he wishes to participate in helping a colleague's cancer-stricken sister with the unique header text above this comic, as mentioned above.
Transcript
- [The first eight panels, used earlier in the comic 1141: Two Years, are faded out.]
- [Randall and Randall's fiancée sit on a bed, Randall's fiancée is talking on the phone. The person she is talking to, a doctor holding a clipboard, is shown inset.]
- Randall's fiancée: Oh god.
- [Randall and Randall's fiancée sit together while Randall's fiancée, now bald, is receiving chemotherapy. They are both on their laptops.]
- IV pump: ... Beeep ... Beeep ... Beeep ...
- [Randall and Randall's fiancée (who is wearing a knit cap) are paddling a kayak against a scenic mountain backdrop.]
- [Randall and Randall's fiancée sit at a table, staring at a cell phone. There is a clock on the wall. Her head is stubbly.]
- Randall's fiancée: How long can it take to read a scan!?
- [Randall and Randall's fiancée are back at the hospital again, Randall's fiancée receiving chemo. They are playing Scrabble.]
- Randall: "Zarg" isn't a word.
- Randall's fiancée: But caaaancer.
- Randall: ...Ok, fine.
- [Randall and Randall's fiancée (wearing a knit cap) are listening to a Cueball-like friend. A large thought bubble is above their heads and it obscures the friends talk. The text below, split in three is the only part there can be no doubt about:]
- Friend: So next year you should come visit us up in the mounta
- a
- and
- Randall and Randall's fiancée (thinking): "Next year"
- [Randall and Randall's fiancée are getting married, with a heart above their heads. Randall's wife's hair is growing back.]
- [Randall and Randall's wife (wearing a knit cap) stand on a beach, watching a whale jump out of water. This is the last gray panel, with an additional label in normal black color.]
- Fwoosh
- Label: Two years
- [Randall and Randall's wife (with her hair noticably longer) are walking through a forest.]
- [Randall's wife is sitting down, not in the forest anymore.]
- Randall's wife: My toe hurts and I found a report of a case in which toe pain was an early sign of cancer spreading.
- Randall: Waitâdidnât you stub your toe yesterday?
- Randall's wife: Yes, but what if this is unrelated?
- [Randall and his wife are going spelunking. The guide is gesturing deeper into the cave while Randall and his wife are climbing down.]
- [Randall's wife stands on a rock above an alligator in a swamp, photographing the alligator. Randall is on a balcony behind safety railings.]
- Randall: When they estimated your survival odds, I think they made some optimistic assumptions about your hobbies.
- [Randall's wife sits on an examination bed, listening to a doctor holding a clipboard.]
- Doctor: This is probably nothing.
- Doctor: But given your history, we should do a full scan.
- Doctor: We'll call with the results in a few days. Try not to worry about it until then!
- [Randall and his wife stand above a deep pond full of fish and other objects. Randall's wife is piloting a wired underwater camera with lights.]
- [Randall and his wife are standing next to each other. Randall's wife has shoulder-length hair covering most of her face.]
- Randall's wife: Hard to believeâsix years ago, I was bald. But today, after a long struggle, I finally look like the little girl from The Ring.
- Randall: That's, uhh... good?
- Randall's wife: Hissssss
- [A line of six people, including Randall and his wife, stand and watch the solar eclipse.]
- [The sky has been brightened.]
- Ponytail: Wow.
- Randall's wife: Yeah.
- [Randall and his wife are walking together and holding hands.]
- Randall's wife: That was incredible.
- Randall's wife: When's the next one?
- Randall: In seven years.
- Randall: Wanna go see it?
- [Still walking, Randall and his wife think together about a timeline. Seven years have passed since 2010, represented with a solid line from the past to 2017; seven years in the future will be 2024, represented with a dotted line into the future and surrounded by three question marks.]
- [The pair keeps walking.]
- Randall's wife: Yeah.
- Randall's wife: I'll do my best.
- Randall: It's a date!
Discussion
no... I'm not crying... Zazathebot (talk)
Liar 172.68.34.34 20:13, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- (162.158.58.105 23:04, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Do we know her name? Dogman15 (talk) 00:34, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Should we remove the transcript incomplete mark? I know it's early, but I don't think it can be any better. 162.158.166.233 02:25, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Is someone cutting onions here? I am almost close to tears soon.Boeing-787lover 08:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Why is my face leaking??? --Nialpxe, 2017. (Arguments welcome)
Yay life!
I love the phrasing "Panel 17: The sky has been brightened." I'm just commenting to preserve it from edits. 198.41.230.52 13:22, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
I don't want to take away anything from this very moving comic, but he does realize there's an eclipse or two every year, somewhere on the planet? Does the fear of cancer somehow limit them from ever leaving the US?
- Do you realize that most people can't afford to travel to the other end of the world just to watch a particular eclipse for 5-7 minutes? 141.101.77.68 09:47, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
God that's beatiful. 162.158.91.17 20:39, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
First off this is fantastic. As someone in the same situation, at the same part of the timeline, this rings so honest and true. The tree scene ... brilliant. Walking among beings for who a human lifespan is insignificant. Second. a hearty, contemptuous, giant F you to Joshupetersen. I can't stand conspiratorial know it alls like you. You think people in this situation don't know every single treatment that is out there? Every single immunotherapy drug in Cuba, every single clinical trial being run out of some backwater lab in China? There is no big pharma conspiracy. There is however a conspiracy called "evolution," which after several million years of practice ensures that cancer is one of the wiliest, most resilient killers out there. 172.68.47.30 22:26, 14 December 2017 (UTC)Kaeleku
- The way you speak about evolution suggest cancer is some kind of infectious organism which evolved to kill effectively. It isn't and it isn't infectious at all. Even the kind of cancers caused by infections are not DIRECT result of infections. Cancer is basically failure of normal cell functionality, abnormal growth of your own cells which your self-repair mechanisms failed to prevent, and evolution is the reason why it's rare to have cancer before the age when it's natural to have children.
- I *think* that Devil facial tumour disease may be a counterexample.162.158.63.196 14:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- Nevertheless, there is no reason for conspiracy: large companies are just slower to adapt to changes. Radiology and chemotherapy are tested, immuno-oncology is new, not well tested and may not work on all kinds of cancer. And regarding how aggressive those old methods are, think about dentistry, which instead of curing anything limits itself to effectively amputation and replacement by artificial prosthesis. -- Hkmaly (talk) 02:52, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
- The wrongest thing to do in this regard is to think of "cancer" as one disease. Yes, the suffering aspect of various forms can be similar and it is sometimes useful to lump them together when making broad policy decisions. But just about every organ and cell type presents a unique challenge, which is best dealt with differently. Some cancers are extremely chemo- and radiosensitive, others are rather resistant. The same is true for novel and experimental treatment methods. Do your own research by all means, but if your oncologist strongly recommends one treatment option, consider that they are weighing previous outcomes of available treatment methods before making the suggestion. --Nialpxe, 2017. (Arguments welcome)
I feel it important to point out to anyone who may be looking at here and thinking about dealing with cancer... talk with your trusted health care professional who knows your case, and is not only well aware of but well practiced in modern medicine. 162.158.74.9 23:58, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
...solar eclipses visible from North America... Americans!162.158.165.16 04:10, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
According to 881: Probability, she had about 79% chance of surviving this far. 162.158.238.191 09:59, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
In 931: Lanes his friends asks if they are "out of the woods". Maybe that's what panel 9 is all about? They are still in danger and therefor "into the woods"?
Two years, here. Really meaningful, this one. Thanks.
..it's 2024 now. Stay safe Randall and Megan. I fucking love y'all. R3TRI8UTI0N (talk) 03:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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